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Thanks guys! I think I'll skip the oil can I linked earlier... I think the spout will be much too big... instead I'll go with precision bottles like the ones chrisash mentioned.

Oh ok thanks! As for actually oiling the machine... just a few drops in each hole/point? Lastly, can I use something like this to apply the oil? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00004YK76/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_2wZbDb15AAQ0A 

Hi there! I just got a (new to me) Adler 167 GK 373. This is my first machine ever and I'm really excited to start using it... One thing I wasn't sure on was if there is a particular oil I need for this machine? I found some documentation online for the machine and all it says is to use oil with viscosity at 20 degrees Celsius = cSt: 193,0 and viscosity at 50 degrees Celsius = cSt: 41,0 and a flash point of 224. From what I have gathered around here, most people are recommending Lilly White sewing machine oil but I haven't been able to find any specs on it... would that be ok for the machine? Also, having never owned or used an industrial machine before, how often do you recommend oiling and how much? Once a month and a drop or two of oil at each of the points on the diagram? Lastly, for reference I have attached the "directions for use" document to this thread... (was only able to upload the English pages because of file size limitations) Thanks! Adler 67 Directions for Use.pdf

I know this is an old post but was wondering the same... Anyone know if a flip down edge guide can be put on to the 167?

Oops! Forgot to post price for those... Crimson Hides full set of irons is $170.

Irons and tools for sale KS Blade 3.38 (euro) 2/9 - $136 KS Blade 3.85 (diamond) 2/5/10- $232 Sinabroks 3.85 (Round Dent) 2/5/10 - $232 leathercrafttools diamond irons 5mm (2/6) / 4mm (1/2/3/4/6) / 3.5mm (2/6) - $40 Vergez Blanchard Filleteuse (bought from RMLS) - $40 Springfield Leather 3/8" Alphabet Open Face Set - $12 All prices above are net to me via PayPal Gift or Apple Pay or Venmo... Prices above do not include shipping. Shipping will be quoted as requested but for reference should be around $8 for a small flat rate box in US. Outside of US will probably be around $25-40 depending on location. Please e-mail me at tangfj@gmail.com if interested.

If you ever split them up I'd be interested in the 3mm set...

That video was great! I'm sure a lot of those tools and molds are really expensive but maybe there are cheaper alternatives? I especially liked the one they used to cut out the buckle end of the strap.

Hoping someone can help me track down a die similar to the one Hermes uses in this video You can see the die at around the 5:40 mark... I've attached a few pics I've been able to find of it as well as a screen capture from the video itself... I've seen watch strap dies but nothing quite like this one... The way they do it, they do all their construction of the strap first... gluing everything together/etc and then they cut it out using the die. It also looks like the die has some sort of guide built in to it so they can line up the piece of leather before cutting as shown in the picture attached. I feel like this is a much cleaner process than cutting and then gluing... anyway, if you know where a die like this can be had, let me know!! Thanks!

Thanks! What are some good resources for sourcing thread in a variety of colors? I might not be looking in the right places since most places I'm looking only have 69 and 138 but no 92.

Just sent you a message.

About to pull the trigger on the class 26 + flatbed conversion and edge guide... Question on thread... Is 69 bonded nylon thread suitable for wallets and small goods or should I look for 92 or 138? SLC seems to only offer 69 and 138... Or is there another type of thread other than bonded nylon that I should look for? Thanks!

Good point! Better pay the extra $$ and get one from a reputable dealer in the US. Right now I'm between a few different machines... all look similar but the cowboy in particular looks like it has a safety cover over the knife for protection... might be a good thing to have on such a sharp knife! Cowboy - http://www.solar-leather.com/cb801-bottom-feed-bell-knife-skiver Cobra - https://www.springfieldleather.com/Bell-Knife-Skiver Consew - https://goldstartool.com/consew-dcs-s4-skiving-machine-w-table-and-servo-motor.html Anyone used a Cowboy before and can comment on whether or not the safety cover makes a difference?

I was thinking of getting a Consew.... in particular this one: https://goldstartool.com/consew-dcs-s4-skiving-machine-w-table-and-servo-motor.html I think that's pretty hard to beat with $0.99 shipping right?

Back again! Sorry if it seems like I'm all over the place but I have had a chance to talk to a couple dealers and have been convinced that a medium duty cylinder arm machine with flat bed conversion table is the way to go. That being said my choices are down to 3 options: NEW Cobra Class 26 - From SLC NEW Artisan 2618 - Direct from Artisan Rebuilt Juki LS-341 - from Nickosew (includes leather package - speed reducer, edge guide, table, etc) Was hoping to see if anyone could sway me in any direction on these machines? Right now I'm leaning towards the Cobra Class 26 as it seems to tick all the right boxes for me for being able to sew light to mid weight leathers and has the flexibility to add on table for my flat items and use as cylinder for when I work my way up to bags/etc. As always, thanks in advance to the helpful people of this forum!

I know you already found a solution but I'd like to add one more... I just recently got one of these to try out and it works surprisingly well and most importantly for you it makes no noise. https://www.etsy.com/listing/615944149/silent-leather-stamp-imprinting-machine?ref=shop_home_active_9 There are other presses like this on the market or you could also just get an arbor press drilled out to fit your punches/irons. I haven't had it long but the work I've done on it so far has been a good experience... very little effort required to get through 4-5 layers of 3/4 oz veg tan and the press ensures you always get a clean straight punch. Just my 2 cents...

Following this topic... looking to find out the same... so many on the market that all look the same but hard to know what are the functional differences!

Didn't know this was an option but definitely a good idea and something worth looking in to!

Yeah I saw that but it's listed at 3/8" (~9.5mm) whereas BG dies are 7.8mm on the top thread so I'm pretty sure it'd be too big anyway... also at $95 that's pretty much half the price of the Buckleguy press and even then I'm not sure 100% it'd work... sure would be nice if there were some standardization in this space! Either way I'm happy now that I know I can get perfectly set snaps with a press... doing it by hand was just too frustrating!

Hey guys, Just wanted to follow up in case this information is useful to anyone else later... I bought a Goldstar press and so far I have not had any issues once I dialed in the amount of force needed to set the snaps... I have found that I give it just enough pressure to feel the roll of the post and then that's all that's needed... maybe 10-15 lb of force at most. As far as snap compatibility, so far here is what I've found for line 20 compatibility: Goldstar snaps - of course they work great but the snaps aren't as high quality as other brand snaps like Buckleguy or Scovill... they do have a good selection of snaps and they are much better priced than the competition Buckleguy - snaps do not fit in Goldstar dies Scoville - snaps to not fit in Goldstar dies Tandy - Not tested yet (will update later) Conclusion: I'm pretty happy with my Goldstar press... I got the Sylvia deal that came with a line 20 die, double sided rivet die, 100 double cap line 20 snaps, and 100 double sided 8mm rivets. Even though the deal has gone up $10 to $98, it still represents a really good deal considering other people are charging more than twice that for just the press and dies. That being said, I have a LOT of Buckleguy snaps that I've collected over the past year... I'm thinking that I may need to invest in either a Weaver or Buckleguy press in addition to the Goldstar press in the hopes that it will be more compatible with other brand snaps... then I think I'll be pretty well covered. Let me know if you have any questions!

Coming back to this thread as I'm narrowing in on a few options... I think I am going to go with a flat bed machine since all the work I do now are wallets and smaller goods. It'd be nice to have a Cobra class 4 but I'm not certain I'd ever utilize that machine fully... I also read some other thread where a guy wishes he had gotten a smaller machine cause the class 4 was tearing up his thinner leathers. In any case, below are my options I'm considering both new and used... If I buy new I am currently looking in to a few options: Highlead 318 Cobra Class 18 or 20 Consew 206rb-5 Juki 1541s If I buy used then I currently have these two on offer to me from a guy locally who deals industrial machines: Singer 331K105 for $395 Tacsew T111-155 (Equipped with 110 volt servo motors) for $550 I've tried doing some research on both of these here and on the net... looks like the Tacsew might be better for leatherwork (might need to get a speed reducer?)... Anyway, I could save a ton of $$$ right now if I go with one of the used ones but are either of these machines worth it? The only sewing machine I've ever used is a brother home use machine so this will my first "real" sewing machine. While it would be nice to save the money now I also don't want to be kicking myself a few months from now wishing I had just ponied up the cash to get the right machine that I can grow in to. Anyway, hoping some of you experts here can chime in to give your opinions now that I've narrowed my choices down!

Thanks guys, I think I'm gonna go with the Goldstar press... will let you guys know how it goes!

Thanks @VYO I have tried leather backing but didn't like the way it raised up the back of the snap... perhaps I need to start using thicker leathers with my snap projects. Using 5oz now and thinking maybe 7oz might be better suited for line 20 snaps... Anyway, what other brand snaps have you tried in the Goldstar? I like the price of the goldstar but not sure if it's worth it to spend extra on any of the other options. Thanks again!

@LatigoAmigo thanks... will try cutting down some snaps on some scrap leather to see if that helps... do you think a hand press would help at all? @brmax see picture of back side below... and yes I do need to pre hole punch. Right now I'm using a 2mm hole punch and it's a nice snug fit.