Singer / Adler patcher parts swapping

[trash treasure]

I know there are some here that are pretty knowledgeable on both Singer and Adler patchers, and I'm hoping for some input and advice.

So, I picked up an Adler 30-1, for pretty cheap, and it was cheap for a reason :~)

One of the parts it needs is what Singer calls the "slide bar" - I have no idea what Adler calls it.   Anyway, mine is broken right where the bar joins the ring.  I actually found the Singer part for sale (not cheap), but I'd like to find out if it will fit the Adler - I know some parts will, but this one ?

I have a TIG welder, and I could try and weld it, if there's no hope of matching the part - I have nothing to lose, at this point

Anyway, this is the part :

Edited May 27, 2022 by trash treasure

[shoepatcher]

Adler part is a little different as to specs and roller size.  Color of your machine.  Black ones were the earliest ones and had a lot of Singer parts in common since Adler copied Singer.  May fit, may not.  I would weld your parts first and then grind the welds for better fitting.  Should be able to weld it.

glenn

[trash treasure]

Sorry, I should have said - It's a green machine, complete with a treadle table. Maybe I'll post a photo, if everyone promises not to beat me up too much for taking on a lost cause.

The machine is free moving, but that's about it - Covered in old lithium grease, to the point where I can't tell yet, how bad it is .

Tom, headed off to practice his welding........

[shoepatcher]

Ok  green one form the 1950's and early 1960's .  Weld piece first and then lets see.  send pics please.

glenn

Edited May 27, 2022 by shoepatcher

[trash treasure]

OK, here it is, in all it's glory - A real project, but maybe doable, if I don't find too many other broken parts.

It is complete, so there is that, to give me confidence, but I may feel differently, once I clean it enough to really see what's wrong.

[Constabulary]

I think I once replaced this part on an Adler with a Singer part. The roller could be a problem if I recall correctly on the modern Chinese parts they are held by a c clip and could stick out a bit too far. But I´m not 100% sure.

I still have 2 Adler 30 on my shelf and I have an OEM Singer feed motion Ring so I can check but that may take some time... But I have no Chinese parts that I could compare.

EDIT:

not entirely the same but I once compared 29K1 parts with 29K71 parts:

 

Edited May 28, 2022 by Constabulary

[Constabulary]

@trash treasure this may be some useful information

 

 

Edited May 28, 2022 by Constabulary

[trash treasure]

Many Thanks for posting those links, Constabulary - They make a couple things much clearer to me, now.  Having never had one of these apart, seeing your work on that 29 K1 gives me hope that I can get this machine at least functioning.

I really appreciate the collective knowledge available on this forum :~)

Edited May 28, 2022 by trash treasure

[Constabulary]

Patchers are no secret machines. Pretty sure you will succeed one or another way. Keep us updated with what you do.

[shoepatcher]

Trash treasure,

I have rebuilt ones in worse shape than that.  The head needs to be disassembled, derusted, primed and repainted.  All parts taken out and derusted, cleaned and polished.  I have a lot of parts to the older 30 class machines.  As Constabulary will tell you, Electrolysis or Evaporust will do the job.  They are worth saving.  Only shoepatcher better than Adler is Claes.  The stand will clean up nicely and I have bolts and nuts for the stands as well.   Will take time but a fun project.   Take lost of pics when disassembling.  You even have the tension assembly below the bobbin winder and the wooden pitman arm.  Pics of the aback of the stand and head please.

glenn