ojd Report post Posted January 16, 2023 Hi. I tried buying wax solution to no avail (without ordering from the US). I would like to avoid solvents so I did a 5 minute google "research". It turned out borax can emulsify beeswax. Since I have no impulse control whatsoever I made some emulsion. I'm gonna test it in my machine later. A bit thicker than water, like cream. What I did was: -one part bees wax -one part 10% (by weight) borax solution. I used tap water, probably better with distilled. Heat both, until the wax has melted in a water bath. Recipe said to 70 degrees centigrade (no idea what that is in freedom units™️) but my wax melted at 78 degrees. In a third likewise heated container mix the two under vigorous stirring. Keep stirring until 40 degrees centigrade. Obviously it's an emulsion, just gotta test if it's good as a wax. Please try and see if it works for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TomE Report post Posted January 16, 2023 Not sure of your application -waxing thread? sealing leather? - but borax might not be leather friendly. It dissolves in water to form a solution with a pH > 9.0. Above 70 oC borax decomposes to unspecified compounds and gives off gases that are reportedly toxic. https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Borax#section=Chemical-and-Physical-Properties Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwight Report post Posted January 16, 2023 You said you are interested in harness making. Assuming you want to dress and make your harness water resistant. Use 1 part (by weight) of neatsfoot oil to 1 part (by weight) of pure beeswax . . . heat in a double boiler type container. I use a glass jar set in water in an old small crock pot. It works wonders on all sorts of leather . . . belts, shoes, purses, harness, billfolds . . . the list is truly great. AND . . . it will not harm your leather. May God bless, Dwight Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ojd Report post Posted January 16, 2023 Its for wax container on machine. I do't like nears foot oil. Or any oil on leather. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ojd Report post Posted January 16, 2023 51 minutes ago, TomE said: Not sure of your application -waxing thread? sealing leather? - but borax might not be leather friendly. It dissolves in water to form a solution with a pH > 9.0. Above 70 oC borax decomposes to unspecified compounds and gives off gases that are reportedly toxic. https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Borax#section=Chemical-and-Physical-Properties In those small concentrations (i.e. 5%) it is not harmful. It is harmful to some chrometanned. Not veg tan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites