Rivets! (ugh)

[fredk]

21 minutes ago, tracey said:

. . . Now I have to find the double caps in nickel-brass...

example

https://www.tandyleather.world/products/solid-brass-double-cap-rivets-100-pack?variant=32642873000071

[tracey]

On 7/9/2023 at 4:48 PM, fredk said:

example

https://www.tandyleather.world/products/solid-brass-double-cap-rivets-100-pack?variant=32642873000071

THANK YOU! Thanks thanks thanks... 

[Frodo]

With out getting political where as I would be talking bad about another countries ethics as to quality

watch out where the product originated from. Their is reason you can go on Ala baba and buy a zillion rivets for $100

crap material and slave labor equals a high cash return to the owner of the company

[Doc Reaper]

I see quick rivets as something to look at, aesthetics, if you would. They have the strength of a hollow tube made of tin, because that’s what they are! There is zero holding strength in a quick rivet. Back in the 70s the rivets were made much better than the junk you find today. The discoloration you are seeing is because of all the materials involved. Nickel is cheap and tin is even cheaper! Also the tannins in the leather are partially at fault. Brass is a good solid holder but steel rocks. If copper was lame it wouldn’t be for rivets. TIN SHOULD NOT BE USED AS  A RIVET. I’d use a screw post before a tin rivet

[Frodo]

On 7/12/2023 at 3:48 PM, Doc Reaper said:

I see quick rivets as something to look at, aesthetics, if you would. They have the strength of a hollow tube made of tin, because that’s what they are! There is zero holding strength in a quick rivet. Back in the 70s the rivets were made much better than the junk you find today. The discoloration you are seeing is because of all the materials involved. Nickel is cheap and tin is even cheaper! Also the tannins in the leather are partially at fault. Brass is a good solid holder but steel rocks. If copper was lame it wouldn’t be for rivets. TIN SHOULD NOT BE USED AS  A RIVET. I’d use a screw post before a tin rivet

22 lr makes for good rivets 

just be careful how you set them

 

[fredk]

On 7/9/2023 at 9:26 PM, tracey said:

Sure enough, steel! Thanks for the magnet suggestion. 

 

On 7/9/2023 at 7:03 PM, fredk said:

.. .  I only use double headers now, just very occasionally single headers in a very small size

The other evening I once again came across a major down-side of using brass-only rivets

I spilt a box of of over 100 small,  6mm head size, rivets across the floor. Of course I couldn't use a magnet to collect them up - down on my knees picking them up by ones & twos, looking in nooks & crannies for hiding heads or tails!