shoe Report post Posted January 11 (edited) Google doesn't tell me more then a few of you folks do, thank you It look way nice fie the price, only one post here about them. I am afraid of the speed, I love using my clsp but it is crap. Handcranks are rare. I want a machine but can't swing above $1200, can borrow $500 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3642287422712546/?mibextid=dXMIcH Edited January 11 by shoe Added the singer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shoe Report post Posted January 11 (edited) It's next to this singer 236w100 Edited January 11 by shoe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Constabulary Report post Posted January 11 maybe you should tell us what thickness (all layers in total) you want to sew or what product. The 236 have a rather short stitch length and are meant for sewing shoe uppers and the like. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shoe Report post Posted January 11 I sew a lot of dog harness, guitar straps and wallets. 5 to 8 oz two thick. Lotsa art engraving and assembly stuff for now. Www.reservationleather.com 9 hours ago, Constabulary said: maybe you should tell us what thickness (all layers in total) you want to sew or what product. The 236 have a rather short stitch length and are meant for sewing shoe uppers and the like. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shoe Report post Posted January 13 This one is a few hours away but really inexpensive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wizcrafts Report post Posted January 14 On 1/11/2024 at 6:00 PM, shoe said: I sew a lot of dog harness, guitar straps and wallets. 5 to 8 oz two thick. Lotsa art engraving and assembly stuff for now. You don't want a machine that only sews tiny stitches with thin thread.Seek out a heavy duty machine capable of sewing 5 to the inch, or longer, with up to #207 thread. You can probably get by with #138 thread if the layers are also cemented together. The dog harness would need double row stitching with #138 thread as it only has 22 pounds breaking strength. I personally use #277 on dog collars and harnesses, as well as holsters and knife sheathes. Number 277 thread has about 44 pounds breaking strength. This calls for a #25 needle. A lot of machines that can sew leather can't use this size thread, or even #207, and sew together 1/4 inch of veg-tan leather. I went through 10 machines trying to sew that thickness and more, with #277 and 346 thread. The 11th machine was the winner! It was a Union Lockstitch machine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites