Chinese 441's

[AngryDick]

So I have been talking with one of the Chinese 441 Manufacturers and getting all the various charges figured out and I think I might do it, The machine looks exactly like the Cobra Class 4 or Cowboy CB4500, Might even be the actual manufacturer of those machines?

I am taking a shot in the dark but I am going to save $1,500 if everything is as I have figured so far, but even if I save less than that I'll be happy. I have no problem putting things together, troubleshooting and tuning, If I can save money, I'll put the time in. 

Wish me luck!

  

[toxo]

8 minutes ago, AngryDick said:

So I have been talking with one of the Chinese 441 Manufacturers and getting all the various charges figured out and I think I might do it, The machine looks exactly like the Cobra Class 4 or Cowboy CB4500, Might even be the actual manufacturer of those machines?

I am taking a shot in the dark but I am going to save $1,500 if everything is as I have figured so far, but even if I save less than that I'll be happy. I have no problem putting things together, troubleshooting and tuning, If I can save money, I'll put the time in. 

Wish me luck!

  

Make sure you allow for any duty payable. I looked at a site called simply duty I think. Don't know if it's just uk or international.

[junlee]

I got a 341 clone and Juki 246 clone direct from China. Everything worked fine after assembly.  

Edited April 3, 2024 by junlee

[zackjordan]

Late reply to this thread but i just stumbled upon it... So I purchased a 441 clone from alibaba about a year ago. it came right to my door, not a single additional fee i had to pay, no tariffs, import tax, nothing. I think it was $1200 or so including shipping (machine only). so far the thing has been flawless, build quality seems as good anything i've seen and honestly a lot better than buying a well used major brand version IMO. the name on it is JIANG LONG, and it's the long arm version.  

I also bought a Global 217zz with cam reader a few years ago since i was unable to find a good 4-point zz machine anywhere (although i recently picked up a bernina with cam reader for $300 complete/first owner but I still prefer the Global). Similar experience with that machine, i think it was about $1500 to my door (machine only).  I switch back and forth between it and the Bernina i picked up recently and the global is very close to as smooth operating as the bernina, and the global has 12mm width vs 6mm for the Bernina, plus it has a puller. For me, the extra features, and almost identical performance make it a winner. I need to/should sell the bernina but i haven't been able to yet, its such a sweet machine, 1 owner, came with manual and a bunch of cams for so cheap... 

[dikman]

You did well, Zack. The final cost, however, will depend on the country you're in. I'm in Australia and a few years back looked into buying a 441 clone head unit from China. Bear in mind that we're reasonably close to China so you would expect shipping to be reasonable. By the time I took into account various shipping/handling/brokerage/customs/import etc fees there was little to be gained from buying one here so I bought a 4500 locally for about the same price. And since then shipping costs have skyrocketed!!

[airstream]

I imported a 441 clone direct from china,  i couldn’t fault the companies service,  i received the machine within a week of paying for it and saved over £1500 on buying it in the uk  the machine as been faultless.

[toxo]

I had the same experience with a 341 clone. Each time I questioned an aspect of the machine, they took the trouble to send a video, ie one stitch at a time, same hole reverse etc etc. 

I don't  think some people on here realise that the machines they're denigrating now have top brand (non Chinese) labels on em all over the world. 

[ElfLeather]

I've got a 246 clone on order. manufacturer is Jianglong, should be here in a few weeks. I figure it's a dice throw, but so far I've heard nothing but good things about these machines. 

They handled the customs and shipping, I paid $650 all told. Talking with the rep wasn't too bad, but a friend walked me through how to deal with Chinese manufacturers. 

If anyone wants info, pics, video, etc., let me know, I'll happily post about it, sink or swim