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I have to agree with Lindsay, I have both needle and awl machines and adlers 205's, as well as 105's

In order to sew heavy leather and produce the nicest stitch the needle and awl machine is superb. I sew on a Landis 16, Yes they are old and very heavy, but they never let me down. The only downside to them there are only a couple of us monkeys who know how to work on them. My father and I ar 2 of them. But when it comes to presentation ther are far superior.

John Stumpf

www.johnscustomleather.com

www.jclleathermachinery.com

jdstumpf@verizon.net

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