Singer 133k18

[Metalhorseman]

Hello everyone ! Happy Holidays! Well I have another question for y’all.

I’ve had this 133k18 machine for awhile , never used it until last week .l put a new belt on it and got it running,went and removed needle to micrometer to find some smaller needles and put back in and must not have tightened needle screw enough and it slipped out some and bent after using it for 5 minutes . And I only had one needle for machine.

 Having a hard time finding this needle , it’s a 216x7 class . It’s a huge needle maybe size 26 .. I would like to find smaller needles maybe 18-22 in size . Anyone use this machine ?. I wonder if it’s possible to change needle bar to a 135x17 like my other walking feet machines ? I’ll switch tinkering to another newly acquired machine 111w155, while I wait to hear from you guys. This sewing machine stuff is addictive!

Thank you to all in advance also 

also will try to post pictures in a bit from my iPhone ,was challenging last time I tried .

[Constabulary]

You know that the 133K18 is a darning machine, right?

I had a 133K3 and own a 132K6 - you can use 214 / 328 needles they are almost the same as the 216 needles.

[Metalhorseman]

Hi ! Yes on Darning machine ... I have a box of 214x2 also on label it says 160/23  these are way to small of a shank . Your saying 214/238 is the class of needle ? Or are you saying 2 different needle classes?I’ll google that .Thanks 

Also I looked in your profile about your machines,,they take class 214 needles u say .gosh wish I could post pictures !  I’ll keep trying to resize 

also found needle info on “ The Thread exchange”  trying to decifer compared  sizes 

Edited December 24, 2024 by Metalhorseman

[Constabulary]

328 and 214 are the same  - 214 is more the US & Anglo "name" and 328 is more the continental European "name" for the same needle.

214 / 328 have different shaft diameter depending on the needle size. This is quite unique and I do not recall a 2nd needle system having this. I have not seen enough 216 needle though. I run my 132K with 214 / 328 and so I did with the former 133K.

Maybe this older thread helps too:

 

[Metalhorseman]

On thread exchange web site 216x7

is also called CYx7

I’m new to this , so I’ve never heard this,, more googling.. 

Thanks Constabulary 

[CowboyBob]

On 12/24/2024 at 3:37 PM, Metalhorseman said:

On thread exchange web site 216x7

is also called CYx7

I’m new to this , so I’ve never heard this,, more googling.. 

Thanks Constabulary 

Yes those needles are still available for $200.00 a box of (100),there is a needlebar & needle clamp available that would allow you to use the smaller shank 214x1 which the smallest size is a #19.We have the clamp & needlebar in stock for $36.00 + shpg.

[Metalhorseman]

On thread exchange web site 216x7

is also called CYx7

I’m new to this , so I’ve never heard this,, more googling.. 

Thanks Constabulary 

Ok , trying to figure out this picture posting gig .. I put pic in wrong spot now …

[Metalhorseman]

Hi Bob , that sounds like a good option .

  But not to sound like a long winded knucklehead, I need some instruction on going about changing needle bar and setting up to sew or  “Darn” with  smaller needle bar , I noticed mine has two lines on needle bar , I’m guessing  for setting bar height .

Maybe I can get more replies on a few more questions before ordering the needle bar and clamp from ya .

Do all machines needle bar height set up the same ?

I recall ”DODINRENO “ explaining this to someone before ,maybe I should send message to him and “Constabulary “ who has similar machines to get more insight.

I’m still trying to learn how to use website and post pics , gets kinda confusing for this 60yr old ..lol

Thanks Bob

[Metalhorseman]

Sorry should read “DonInReno....”

[Constabulary]

main question from my point is what do you want to do with the machine? Just darning I guess cause the machine has no feed system to feed the material for achieving a constant and equal stitch length.