Timing Adler 30-15

[hampasragnar]

Hi, I am having problems with my newley purchased Adler 30-15. The needle will not pick up the tread. Not even close. I know tension and needle might be wrong, maybe what i causing this. Bobbin tensions feels fine.

However the needle seems to be too far ahead of the bobbin shuttle. When it goes down the bobbin shuttle is far back but then the bobbin shuttle moves forward to chatch the thread the needle moves up a bit to go down yet again when the bobbin shuttle hook has moved passed the thread and needle. As the needle has gone up a tad, the hook misses the loop of the thread.

Can the timing be adjusted somehow? I saw a video stating that the barron can be adjusted. Is this the way to go? https://youtu.be/xl90CWiumnM?si=qrPnX9p8R2rPP4wO

Any help is apprechiated🙏

[Wizcrafts]

@hampasragnar

Your video link is no good. Try creating a YouTube account and upload it there. Then link to it and it will appear here.

[hampasragnar]

Ohh sorry, here comes a YT link.

Is it that simple as that I need a 332 LG needle which i assume is longer so that it stays down in the shuttle for longer?

 

The Machine is in really good shape elsewise

 

[hampasragnar]

13 hours ago, Wizcrafts said:

@hampasragnar

Your video link is no good. Try creating a YouTube account and upload it there. Then link to it and it will appear here.

Ping😇 i have uploaded a youtube link. Much appreciated help🙏

[Wizcrafts]

13 hours ago, hampasragnar said:

Is it that simple as that I need a 332 LG needle which i assume is longer so that it stays down in the shuttle for longer?

There was a previous discussion about the Adler 30-15 on Leatherworker.net. It was determined that this model uses the shorter System 332, aka: 135x16, 135x17, 29x3, or 29x4 needles. If that needle doesn't pick up the thread, the timing is probably off because the shuttle driving gears are loose, worn out, or misaligned. Or, maybe the shuttle hook is damaged or incorrect for the machine, or maybe you need to move the needle clamp closer to the hook.

[Constabulary]

Let me try to explain. You have to close the needle plate. Hold the thread in your have and pull it up slightly when the needle goes down and when the needle comes up again a bit again no longer pull the thread then a loop will be formed which then is caught by the hook. If this does not work then you needle-hook timing most likely needs adjustment or you have to practice.

Watch the movement of the needle you will notice the needle goes down, then it comes up a little bit (maybe 2mm or so) and in this moment the thread loop is formed and the hook can catch the top thread loop...

[hampasragnar]

1 hour ago, Wizcrafts said:

There was a previous discussion about the Adler 30-15 on Leatherworker.net. It was determined that this model uses the shorter System 332, aka: 135x16, 135x17, 29x3, or 29x4 needles. If that needle doesn't pick up the thread, the timing is probably off because the shuttle driving gears are loose, worn out, or misaligned. Or, maybe the shuttle hook is damaged or incorrect for the machine, or maybe you need to move the needle clamp closer to the hook.

Thanks, is 332 the same as 332 LG? I just ordered some needles of typ 332 LL LG. https://shop.indukta.se/collections/332-lg Hope these are the correct ones. There are 332 LG and 332. Not sure abou the difference between the three. All seem to be 48,5 mm long from the base to the hole.

[hampasragnar]

23 minutes ago, Constabulary said:

Let me try to explain. You have to close the needle plate. Hold the thread in your have and pull it up slightly when the needle goes down and when the needle comes up again a bit again no longer pull the thread then a loop will be formed which then is caught by the hook. If this does not work then you needle-hook timing most likely needs adjustment or you have to practice.

Watch the movement of the needle you will notice the needle goes down, then it comes up a little bit (maybe 2mm or so) and in this moment the thread loop is formed and the hook can catch the top thread loop...

Thanks, i will try this and see if it works. The machine is in mint condition. The previous owner did not get a shuttle with the machine and purchased one for 900 sek (90€). Not sure if it is a high quality one but it looks well made. It fits well and the hook has a sharp point. I'll send over a photo to show as soon as I am back home.

[hampasragnar]

12 minutes ago, hampasragnar said:

Thanks, is 332 the same as 332 LG? I just ordered some needles of typ 332 LL LG. https://shop.indukta.se/collections/332-lg Hope these are the correct ones. There are 332 LG and 332. Not sure abou the difference between the three. All seem to be 48,5 mm long from the base to the hole.

The order is not yet shipped so I can still change it to 135x17 if that is a better fit? They are cheaper than the 332 LL LG

[Constabulary]

23 minutes ago, hampasragnar said:

Thanks, is 332 the same as 332 LG? I just ordered some needles of typ 332 LL LG. https://shop.indukta.se/collections/332-lg Hope these are the correct ones. There are 332 LG and 332. Not sure abou the difference between the three. All seem to be 48,5 mm long from the base to the hole.

There is 332 and 332LG / 332 LONG which is longer than 332. 332 is for the 30-1, 30-15 and so forth and the 332LG / 332 Long is for 30-7, 30-70 and so forth with a higher foot lift. Alternatively you can use 135x17 and 135x16 needles on your machine (I do this on my 29K71 which is using the same needles as the 30-15).

The nomenclature 332 and the longer 332 Long can be confusing especially when the needle tip is left twist (LL)

Edited April 15 by Constabulary