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My Vilh Pedersen 282 clicker press is not working much good and I need some pics that show off the Hydraulic system. If anybody has a manual please let me know.

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Does anybody have one of these that could advise me what grade of oil it should use?

 

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I just tried Googling if there was any information in Danish, but sadly nothing came up. My best guess would be to contact Sieck in Germany and see if they have any information on the machine. 

Good luck

Brgds Jonas

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@RockyAussie I tried a bit more Googlin. 

 

This member had a manual, the thread is not super old, so maybe it was worth sending a message to him and see if he still has it, or maybe if he saved a pdf of it.

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31 minutes ago, Mulesaw said:

This member had a manual, the thread is not super old, so maybe it was worth sending a message to him and see if he still has it, or maybe if he saved a pdf of it.

Thanks you for that Jonas, I had found that as well and sent him a message but unfortunately he has not been on LW since May this year. I may try and contact Seick as you suggested and see how that goes. I would really like to know what oil grade it takes at least. I was hoping that someone from Denmark or near to there may know something but no luck as yet.

Thanks again for trying.

Brgds Brian

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@RockyAussie The actual company ceased to exist quite some years ago, and the successor company only deals with the Pedersen milling machines. I wrote them about a year ago due to some questions on an old Pedersen sewing machine. But never got an answer.

Based on my experience as a marine engineer (there is a whole lot of different hydraulic systems on a ship), I'd suggest that you use either a grade 32 or 46 oil for the hydraulic system. The higher grade if you operate in very warm climates (+ 40 degrees Celsius continuously). 
My reasoning is that the mechanism has to return fairly fast, and that necessitates a fairly thin oil. I have never seen a clicker press in real life, only on Youtube, and based on how it moves it seems as there is basically just a piston to move the clicker part. And any hydraulic oil will move a piston, but only a thing one will drain fast enough for a spring to return the piston to the start position.

I would guess that a skilled hydraulic mechanic could troubleshoot and potentially fix the problem without having the manual. 
Without having seen your machine, I guess there is some sort of solenoid valve that need to register that your hands are out of harms way before it will press. If any of these don't get the signal, they'll stay open and let oil bleed through back to they hydraulic tank.  So it might be an electrical fault. 

But I am just guessing here. What is the problem that you are experiencing? lack of power, or no movement or slow movement or something else?

 

This company (I found them while searching for a manual) have at least two Pedersen 282 in this (old) video. Perhaps they have a manual that they would share with you?

Brgds  Jonas

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