stitch quality of the Adler clones compare to that of the juki 441 clones.

[esantoro]

Though it is some time off before I'll have two cylinder arm machines, I was wondering how the stitch quality of the Adler clones compare to that of the juki 441 clones.

Ed

[Luke Hatley]

ED IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR ANOTHER MACHINE.

TALK TO DON OR DARRIN AT INDUSTRIAL SEWING MACHINE SALES

IN OHIO.

I HAVE ONE OF THEIR SEWMO MACHINES AND I REALLY LIKE IT...

I LIKE THE CONCEPT OF THE ADLER OVER THE JUKI...AND YOU WILL ALSO.

THOES ARE A PAIR OF CHINKS I FINISHED LAST WEEK.

Edited December 23, 2007 by Luke Hatley

[esantoro]

Luke,

that's a nice machine. I'm a year or two away from realistically considering a second big machine, but I thought I'd start early doing the research and looking around.

Your machine and the 441 use the same needle system, right?

ed

[Luke Hatley]

ANYTHING THAT THE ADLER 205-370 USES THE SEWMO DOES ALSO.

THE NEEDLE SYSTEM IS 794S.

[Art]

Hi Ed,

They are both threaded needle machines, both hook systems are tried and true; they will both stitch the same. If you want a tighter stitch, you will have to use a Campbell or a Randal, or a Union needle and awl machine. If you are currently using a 441, I would stay with that family of machine unless it is doing something that you don't like. They clone Jukis and Adlers, must be a reason for that, one thing is the availability of parts for them, another is that they work and last pretty well.

Art

Though it is some time off before I'll have two cylinder arm machines, I was wondering how the stitch quality of the Adler clones compare to that of the juki 441 clones.

Ed

[bcurrier]

Same stitch. The Adler design does require a special gauge tool to time it. You can time a 441 type visually.

[esantoro]

I had heard a while ago that the adlers have or once had more of a problem being used with a range of thread thicknesses, that one would have to install an appropriately sized spacer -- which keeps the needle the correct distance from the hook -- when changing needles sizes.

Even the 441 manual includes mention of such spacers. I've been meaning to locate a couple of these spacers for when I want to use a #23 needle on my 441. I've also been looking unsuccessfully for thin copper shim stock that would allow me to adjust the spacing easily without having to pay for actual spacers.

Ed

[tonyc1]

You can buy these spacers from Weavers.

[esantoro]

You can buy these spacers from Weavers.

Hi Tony,

Do you have any idea how much these spacers run for the 441?

Thanks,

Ed

[tonyc1]

Hi Ed,They are $3.15 each and there are 4 of them.Forgot to add that they come in #160,#200, #230 and #250.