Needles for Tippmann Boss

[Rannoch]

My Tippmann Boss came with a bunch of needles, but only one does not hit the bobbin cover.  All but one appear to be too long.  

Looking to order in more of the correct size, I could see no size marked on the one that didn't strike the cover (unlike the other ones).  In the chart in the manual the needle size given for the thread I'm using is "794s Serv 1 230 ...... SM 53-5".  I don't understand what all of this means.  Is 230 is the size of the eye?  What indicates the length?  

Why did Tippmann supply needles that are too long?

Is this a set-up problem?  The machine works fine otherwise.  

thanks

 

[kgg]

2 hours ago, Rannoch said:

794s Serv 1 230 ...... SM 53-5

According to their manual Page 13 THREAD SPECIFICATIONS:

Breaking down what "794s Serv 1 230 ...... SM 53-5 " means

i) the 794s Serv 1 denotes the needle has a chisel point tip made for leather sewing

ii) the 230 denotes the size of needle. Here is a good reference chart for the thread size vs the needle size needed ( https://www.tolindsewmach.com/thread-chart.html )

iii) the SM 53-5 is the Tippmann Boss part number for the needle. You can order these directly from Tippmann using their part number or from other vendors just by specing the needle system, needle size and shape of the tip of the needle. 

2 hours ago, Rannoch said:

What indicates the length?  

The needle system (794) denotes the length of the needle. All 794 will be the same length.

2 hours ago, Rannoch said:

My Tippmann Boss came with a bunch of needles, but only one does not hit the bobbin cover.  All but one appear to be too long.  

Are all the needles the same length when you put them side by side?? It maybe as simple as you don't have the screw holding the needle backed off far enough. Otherwise I would call Tippmann. 

kgg

 

 

[Rannoch]

29 minutes ago, kgg said:

Are all the needles the same length when you put them side by side?? It maybe as simple as you don't have the screw holding the needle backed off far enough. Otherwise I would call Tippmann. 

kgg

 

 

Thank you so much for the explanation.  

All the needles are the same length except the one that doesn't hit the bobbin cover.  

I backed the screw all the way out, and the long needles are still too long. 

Unfortunately, the needle that works best doesn't have a size designation on it.  The thread I'm using is 346.

I should add that I bought this machine from a well known seller of leather goods.  They didn't have any in stock so they sold me the demonstration model.  They, rather than Tippmann, might have supplied the oversized needles.  

Edited 48 minutes ago by Rannoch

[kgg]

32 minutes ago, Rannoch said:

I should add that I bought this machine from a well known seller of leather goods.

Rather then you fiddling with a new machine be it a demo unit I would go bring back the machine to the seller and ask them why the 794 needles don't fit and have them correct the problem.  

kgg