I think I got the wrong machine :O

[friquant]

I'm not seeing reference to the "-M" part of the 869.

Looking in this user manual: https://partner.duerkopp-adler.com/commons/download/public/869/B_869_DE_EN.pdf

on page 89 (as viewed from the pdf reader), or page 9 (as viewed in print from the english section) it shows several subclasses and they are all specified with a max needle size of 180. Here is a screenshot:

 

It also says "(depending on E-No.)" but I'm not seeing reference to "E-No" elsewhere in the manual. 🤷‍♀️

[Woehlk]

its super strange that ALL the feet and plates cant use needles obove 140, even though it can use a 180 needle :S 

But yes im super happy with them. they said that they would just put the machine at demo in there shop. And I can use the 969 until the new 869 arrives. 

[kgg]

7 minutes ago, Woehlk said:

its super strange that ALL the feet and plates cant use needles obove 140, even though it can use a 180 needle :S 

I'm glad you had good success with the dealer. Seems strange, you should contact them or Alder directly for a solution. Ah, you should bought a Juki.

kgg

[Woehlk]

I have a fetish for German machines. Juki seams fine though :D