I think I got the wrong machine :O

[friquant]

I'm not seeing reference to the "-M" part of the 869.

Looking in this user manual: https://partner.duerkopp-adler.com/commons/download/public/869/B_869_DE_EN.pdf

on page 89 (as viewed from the pdf reader), or page 9 (as viewed in print from the english section) it shows several subclasses and they are all specified with a max needle size of 180. Here is a screenshot:

 

It also says "(depending on E-No.)" but I'm not seeing reference to "E-No" elsewhere in the manual. 🤷‍♀️

[Woehlk]

its super strange that ALL the feet and plates cant use needles obove 140, even though it can use a 180 needle :S 

But yes im super happy with them. they said that they would just put the machine at demo in there shop. And I can use the 969 until the new 869 arrives. 

[kgg]

7 minutes ago, Woehlk said:

its super strange that ALL the feet and plates cant use needles obove 140, even though it can use a 180 needle :S 

I'm glad you had good success with the dealer. Seems strange, you should contact them or Alder directly for a solution. Ah, you should bought a Juki.

kgg

[Woehlk]

I have a fetish for German machines. Juki seams fine though :D 

[shoepatcher]

On 12/8/2025 at 2:48 PM, Woehlk said:

I would have thought the 869 would be a better machine for the job also. thickest leather I will sew is 8mm. 

It would be.  The 969 is one of the heaviest machines made!    The dealer did not know what he was doing!!!   What was he thinking???   The 869 much better for your application.  

glenn