AlZilla Posted Monday at 12:28 PM Report Posted Monday at 12:28 PM 8 hours ago, J Kellar said: I was actually just looking at the CB2500 when I figured I'd check notifications. Some time in I went through this a couple of years back. Just a seeming few dollars more gets you a little more capability. Then, if you're at that level anyway, why not a little more money..? Such a slippery slope. Be interesting to find out where you land. 😃 Quote “Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” - Voltaire “Republics decline into democracies and democracies degenerate into despotisms.” - Aristotle
kgg Posted Monday at 01:51 PM Report Posted Monday at 01:51 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, AlZilla said: Such a slippery slope. Be interesting to find out where you land. Lets face it, It ain't a hobby it's an addiction. Just depends on which rabbit hole you go down. The worst is buying a machine that will not do what you thought it would. I think a lot of use have done that at some point. On 12/8/2025 at 5:44 PM, J Kellar said: sew wallets, belts, and knife cases On 12/8/2025 at 5:44 PM, J Kellar said: sew through 2 layers of 10-11 oz Hermann Oak No one machine will do everything. My personal thoughts If you are: i) sewing wallets and typical belts, a Class 341/1341 like a Juki LS-341 / LS- 1341 or clone with a table top attachment would be a good choice. ii) sewing thick / tough leather with V207 and above, a Class 441 like a Juki TSC-441 or clone or one armed bandit is needed. The thing a lot of people forget is if you buy a Class 441 machine the needle is basically the size of a 2 1/2" finishing nail which is going to punch a really large hole that may not be suitable for say a wallet. The 90 percent rule: Buy a new machine that meets 90 percent of your sewing needs / wants. For the other 10 percent buy a good used machine. kgg Edited Monday at 01:52 PM by kgg Quote Juki DNU - 1541S, Juki DU - 1181N, Singer 29K - 71(1949), Chinese Patcher (Tinkers Delight), Warlock TSC-441, Techsew 2750 Pro, Consew DCS-S4 Skiver
MikeG Posted Monday at 02:52 PM Report Posted Monday at 02:52 PM (edited) 4 hours ago, kgg said: Lets face it, It ain't a hobby it's an addiction. Just depends on which rabbit hole you go down. The worst is buying a machine that will not do what you thought it would. I think a lot of use have done that at some point. No one machine will do everything. ***************************************************************** I am the poster child for this. When I first got into this "hobby" I attended a class. Two different students in the class convinced me that a Luberto #9 was the best machine for doing leatherwork, so I traveled three states away to get one. And it was NOT cheap. It turned out it WAS the best machine -- if you wanted to stitch 3/4" leather. As KGG said, that thing punched BIG holes. It took me many years to sell that machine at a fraction of what I paid for it. I now have a 50 year old Juki LU-563 that I picked up for $100. There are a lot of things the Juki won't do, but I use it it way more than the #9. My 2 cents: Read Wiz's article on sewing machines, watch Facebook & pick up a cheap triple feed. Learn how to sew. Learn the ins and outs of machine sewing. Understand how to tune and adjust a machine. After all that, decide which direction to go. If you decide to change machines, the one you bought and tuned will probably be worth more than you paid for it. Just be careful, or you will end up with two (or three, or more!) sewing machines. They are so awesome and fascinating!! Good luck on your journey! Edited Monday at 06:14 PM by AlZilla Moved the response out of the quote box Quote
Members J Kellar Posted Monday at 06:16 PM Author Members Report Posted Monday at 06:16 PM 4 hours ago, kgg said: Lets face it, It ain't a hobby it's an addiction. Just depends on which rabbit hole you go down. The worst is buying a machine that will not do what you thought it would. I think a lot of use have done that at some point. No one machine will do everything. My personal thoughts If you are: i) sewing wallets and typical belts, a Class 341/1341 like a Juki LS-341 / LS- 1341 or clone with a table top attachment would be a good choice. ii) sewing thick / tough leather with V207 and above, a Class 441 like a Juki TSC-441 or clone or one armed bandit is needed. The thing a lot of people forget is if you buy a Class 441 machine the needle is basically the size of a 2 1/2" finishing nail which is going to punch a really large hole that may not be suitable for say a wallet. The 90 percent rule: Buy a new machine that meets 90 percent of your sewing needs / wants. For the other 10 percent buy a good used machine. kgg I use stitching chisels right now, and they leave a fairly big hole. I just always tap down my stitches with an old bodywork hammer, and it does the trick usually. 3 hours ago, MikeG said: Just be careful, or you will end up with two (or three, or more!) sewing machines. They are so awesome and fascinating!! Good luck on your journey! When I get my own separate workshop, I would love to have a few different machines. As far as a triple feed, it's simply too far out of budget. I keep searching eBay and Craigslist, nothing comes up. Quote
MikeG Posted Monday at 08:50 PM Report Posted Monday at 08:50 PM I used to mine Craigslist years ago. I don't care much for Facebook, but today I find most of my deals on Marketplace. Quote
Members J Kellar Posted Monday at 08:55 PM Author Members Report Posted Monday at 08:55 PM 3 minutes ago, MikeG said: I used to mine Craigslist years ago. I don't care much for Facebook, but today I find most of my deals on Marketplace. There's not enough leatherworkers in my area who would have the types of machines I'm looking for, so Marketplace won't help me much either. Quote
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted Monday at 11:15 PM Moderator Report Posted Monday at 11:15 PM 2 hours ago, J Kellar said: There's not enough leatherworkers in my area who would have the types of machines I'm looking for, so Marketplace won't help me much either. Perhaps if you increase the search area to a wider radius you might see some desirable sewing machines on Marketplace. I found a lot more at 100 miles, and even more when I expanded to 200 miles radius. Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Contributing Member friquant Posted 15 hours ago Contributing Member Report Posted 15 hours ago On 1/26/2026 at 12:16 PM, J Kellar said: As far as a triple feed, it's simply too far out of budget. I keep searching eBay and Craigslist, nothing comes up. What zipcode are you searching? Quote friquant. Like a frequent, piquant flyer. Check out my blog: Choosing a Motor for your Industrial Sewing Machine
Members J Kellar Posted 11 hours ago Author Members Report Posted 11 hours ago 4 hours ago, friquant said: What zipcode are you searching? If I search craigslist, 39401. With eBay, I merely search the entire website. On 1/26/2026 at 5:15 PM, Wizcrafts said: Perhaps if you increase the search area to a wider radius you might see some desirable sewing machines on Marketplace. I found a lot more at 100 miles, and even more when I expanded to 200 miles radius. I'll see what that does. Quote
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