yotebuster1200 Report post Posted February 20, 2009 I am wanting to build a couple head stalls and was wondering what would be the deal thickness of leather to use? and also is their any other reason why people sew 2 layers of thinner leather together instead of a single layer of comparable thickness? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MarkB Report post Posted March 9, 2009 I use 8-9oz. strap from Hermann Oak Leather Co. for the outer piece and 5-6oz. Latigo for the lining. I use latigo because of horse sweat. I use Harness a lot to, for that I like 10 oz. or heaver for a single piece headstall. Here is a headtsall that have made. www.cowcampsaddlery.webs.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gilligan Report post Posted March 9, 2009 I know a few people that will put decorations on the outer layer (i.e. studs, jewels, conchos) then sew them together to keep the metal from rubbing a raw spot on your horse. don't know of any other reasons for doubling. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
littlebow Report post Posted March 9, 2009 put backing on it does more then you think Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gilligan Report post Posted March 10, 2009 wasn't tryign to imply that there weren't reasons, i know there are reasons out there, they are just unbeknowest to me. The Kid Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RunningRoan Report post Posted April 14, 2009 I use 8-9oz. strap from Hermann Oak Leather Co. for the outer piece and 5-6oz. Latigo for the lining. I use latigo because of horse sweat. I use Harness a lot to, for that I like 10 oz. or heaver for a single piece headstall. Here is a headtsall that have made. www.cowcampsaddlery.webs.com Hey thanks for the info! Nice headstall BTW! I just asked this very question (leather weights) on another thread on here. Have you found 5-6oz to be the best for lining? Have you ever lined with something besides latigo? I found some oily chap leather the other day that I really liked, but wondered if it was too buttery for lining? Wasn't sure if it'd glue to the backside of the veg tan well enough to sew together? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RunningRoan Report post Posted April 14, 2009 and also is their any other reason why people sew 2 layers of thinner leather together instead of a single layer of comparable thickness? I've wondered the same... I'm a tack retailer (buying wholesale from other companies and reselling) and I have one supplier that does this. And the inner layer is not a liner (veg tan, just like the top side) and it's not protecting the feet from the spots, they're poked all the way through both layers. It does save them from skiving for the buckles though...they just end the bottom layer and wrap the top layer around the buckle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hidepounder Report post Posted April 15, 2009 When I build headstalls I always line them or double them...depending on what the headstall is going to be used for and what the customer wants. If I'm not lining a headstall I will certainly double it. Doubling is stronger and more finished than a single ply headstall of the same weight. I also thinks it's easier to clean and care for. A working headstall would not be constructed of the same materials or methods as a headstall for the show ring. Depending on the style, my headstalls range from 12 oz to 16 oz. or even heavier. A working Buckaroo pattern is typically wider and heavier than a dainty Show headstall. Latigo makes a great lining as does some of the pre-finished pigskins. Besides style, cost has to come into play also...obviously a single ply headstall is less expensive to make than a lined or doubled headstall. Some customers may prefer a heavy single ply rig constructed from harness leather...there's a lot of them out there. I know this is not a definitive answer to your question...I just think there are no rules here. I think you just use common sense, question the customer for their preferences and consider what the rig will be used for.....IMHO. Bob Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marietje Report post Posted April 20, 2009 I'm wondering for quite some time....what is 'oz' in european terms? I find it not so easy to get good leather in The Netherlands. Does oz mean the thickness of the leather? and what is that recalculated in mm for example? Might be easier for me to find some good leather then. Or maybe anyone has an address on this side of the world where I can go to? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldtimer Report post Posted April 20, 2009 (edited) I'm wondering for quite some time....what is 'oz' in european terms? I find it not so easy to get good leather in The Netherlands. Does oz mean the thickness of the leather? and what is that recalculated in mm for example? Might be easier for me to find some good leather then. Or maybe anyone has an address on this side of the world where I can go to? The oz value ( ounces/ square foot) indicates the thickness of leather. Here is a conversion table: Laederiet in Denmark, might be a source, not far from the Netherlands. www.laederiet.dk Hope this will help! / Knut Edited April 20, 2009 by oldtimer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
