Members 10mm Posted February 24, 2009 Members Report Posted February 24, 2009 I have been making leather holsters for quite a while now and have decided to purchase a sewing machine. Hand stitching gets old pretty quick. I have been told that I will need a cylinder arm machine rather than a flat bed machine. Is this true and if so, why? I will be sewing two pieces of 8 ounce leather together. I have looked at the Tippmann Boss and while it's in my price range, for a little more I can get a new, powered machine. I would really like to find a used machine at a reasonable price that would suffice for now and perhaps purchase something like an Artisan Toro 3000 at a later date. What machine(s) would you recommend? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Quote
Moderator Art Posted February 24, 2009 Moderator Report Posted February 24, 2009 Nothing in this world is necessary except for something similar to a stick and a rock. That being said, a cylinder arm machine will make it much easier to sew close to pockets or bulges in your work, like the bulge caused by something (firearm maybe) occupying the aforementioned holster or pocket. Also, the 441 based machines (which are cylinder arm) have various needle plates and feet available for sewing different things like holsters and bags and things. Not all cylinder arm machines have the variety of plates available that the 441 and it's clones do. Art I have been making leather holsters for quite a while now and have decided to purchase a sewing machine. Hand stitching gets old pretty quick. I have been told that I will need a cylinder arm machine rather than a flat bed machine. Is this true and if so, why? I will be sewing two pieces of 8 ounce leather together. I have looked at the Tippmann Boss and while it's in my price range, for a little more I can get a new, powered machine. I would really like to find a used machine at a reasonable price that would suffice for now and perhaps purchase something like an Artisan Toro 3000 at a later date. What machine(s) would you recommend? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Quote For heaven's sakes pilgrim, make yourself a strop!
Members Handstitched Posted March 11, 2009 Members Report Posted March 11, 2009 G'Day , Just reading some of the posts on this web site, a lot of people don't seem to be very happy with Tippman (?) However, there seems to be a LOT of praise for the Artisan machines, and similar clones, for versatility, great after sales service etc. I can vouch for that too, my machine (441 clone) comes from Queensland ,Australia and my after sales & service dude has always been very helpful even when I ask some of the silliest questions. As for the machine itself, I now have all the adjustments just right for what I do, and its absolutely fantastic and its a joy to use All the best, Handstitched Quote ' I have a very gweat friend in Wome called Biggus Dickus, He has a wife you know, do you know whats she's called? Incontinentia.......Incontinentia Buttocks '
Cobra Steve Posted March 16, 2009 Report Posted March 16, 2009 Hello 10MM, this is Cobra Steve from the Leather Machine Co., Inc. Our new COBRA Class 3 machine is the perfect machine for you. It is actually set up where you are able to sew holsters and many other leather projects. The presser feet have been manufactured not only to sew the holster, but the bullet loops as well. They were well received at the recent leather show in Wickenburg. You can contact me by phone at 1-866-962-9880 or by my cell at 1-909-800-1429. I hope to hear from you soon. Thanks, Steve Quote Thank You Steve Tayrien Leather Machine Co., Inc. 2141 E. Philadelphia St. Unit "U" Ontario, California 91761 1-866-962-9880 http://www.leathermachineco.com cobra@leathermachineco.com
Contributing Member TwinOaks Posted March 16, 2009 Contributing Member Report Posted March 16, 2009 (edited) Steve, When are we gonna get to see some pics of the new machines? Not all of us are able to make the trip to Wickenburg and the website is Pic-Free. It might help sales to see what it is. From what I've heard, it's kind of 'standard' for a 441 clone, but that Cobra changed the needle plate out to facilitate 'grain out on both sides' sewing. I, and I suspect others, hope to see some pics on the new website. Thanks, Mike P.S. Sorry about the slight hijack Edited March 16, 2009 by TwinOaks Quote Mike DeLoach Esse Quam Videri (Be rather than Seem) "Don't learn the tricks of the trade.....Learn the trade." "Teach what you know......Learn what you don't." LEATHER ARTISAN'S DIGITAL GUILD on Facebook.
Cobra Steve Posted March 16, 2009 Report Posted March 16, 2009 Mike they are working on the site as we speak. It should be up in a couple of days. Thanks for the time, Steve Quote Thank You Steve Tayrien Leather Machine Co., Inc. 2141 E. Philadelphia St. Unit "U" Ontario, California 91761 1-866-962-9880 http://www.leathermachineco.com cobra@leathermachineco.com
Members ryano Posted March 16, 2009 Members Report Posted March 16, 2009 (edited) Toledo Industrial Sewing machine, Ohio, sells the Cowboy sewing machine line and is by far cheaper on price than any other machine dealer. He also has a lot of used machines, I mean a lot. He also sells needles and thread. He has a toll free number 866-362-7397. I am just a happy customer. Edited March 16, 2009 by ryano Quote
millman927 Posted March 16, 2009 Report Posted March 16, 2009 Hey Steve, are you going to be at the Sheridan show? Quote
Cobra Steve Posted March 16, 2009 Report Posted March 16, 2009 Yes i will be in Sheridan, hope to see you there. Thanks, Steve Quote Thank You Steve Tayrien Leather Machine Co., Inc. 2141 E. Philadelphia St. Unit "U" Ontario, California 91761 1-866-962-9880 http://www.leathermachineco.com cobra@leathermachineco.com
Members neelsaddlery Posted March 16, 2009 Members Report Posted March 16, 2009 I think we really need to quit pluggung each other's machines here on the forum. This is not the place to do it. We all have our own websites, and you should look at each individual dealer on the merits of price, customer service, customer satisfaction, and quality of accessories and attachments. Just my two cents worth. Kindest Regards, Ryan O. Neel Neel's Saddlery and Harness Cowboy Sewing Machines Quote Ryan O. Neel Cowboy Sewing Machines Neel's Saddlery and Harness Offices in North Lima Ohio and Toledo Ohio www.cowboysew.com www.neelsaddlery.com toll free: 1-866-507-8926
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