Members rharris Posted March 9, 2009 Members Report Posted March 9, 2009 I got my Clear Lac from Panhandle Leather in Amarillo, Tx. I think it is made by CLI in Ft. Worth. I am not sure about the name of the company and I am not home right now. When I get back home tomarrow I will check the maker. RussH Quote
yaklady Posted March 9, 2009 Report Posted March 9, 2009 Rhonda, I have had the same experience with Super Shene, and for that reason, I don't use it. I have never liked the way it feels. RTC doesn't have that feel, and neither does Neat Lac. Keith, RTC is water soluble. Some people spray it on, I wipe it on with a piece of shearling, sheared down to about a quarter inch. Put it on in circular motions, and don't use it too sparingly. I haven't tried mixing it with antique like I do with Tan Kote. It has a gloss to it, but not as much as Super Shene. I have never had trouble with it cracking. I have had trouble with Super Shene that way. I haven't used it a whole lot, because I have always liked Neat Lac as a resist, so it's fairly new to me, but I like it. I think RTC stands for Rat Tonsil Control. Or maybe Rediculous Theological Circumstances. Your guess is as good as mine! Kathy Quote All bad yaks make their way to the freezer.
Members debjohns Posted March 10, 2009 Members Report Posted March 10, 2009 I too just bought the last can of neat lac in existance in my area. It seems a forgone conclusion for mankind that if it works, get rid of it! I absolutely loved it as i found nothing better to resist with and to put a nice top coat on dye work before highlighting. i do a lot of leather picture carving and use small paint brushes to apply it. It was NEVER sticky. I have enough time while this last can of neat lac lasts for all of you to experiment with other products and reap the rewards of all your trial and errors, lol. I will keep track of this post. Quote "Just for the Smell of It" Debbie Johns Leather
Members kseidel Posted March 10, 2009 Members Report Posted March 10, 2009 Kathy, Thanks for the report. I have used neat lac for the past 30+ years and have about 3 gallons left. But that won't last long. The new formula a couple of years ago does not work the same as the old and not nearly as well. I have about a gallon of the old recipe left and I hoard it for difficult or special projects. I looked up the RTC on the Bee Natural website and was surprised at the price. Quite a difference from $35 gal for the toxic chemical to the all "natural" at $110 gal. Does it go farther, or do you use about the same volume? I read above where it requires two coats to resist antique. RHarris What about this clear lac from panhandle leather? What are its characteristics? I feel like an amateur again researching new finishes! HAHA Keith Quote Keith Seidel Seidel's Saddlery www.seidelsaddlery.com
Members rharris Posted March 10, 2009 Members Report Posted March 10, 2009 (edited) Keith I can not tell any difference in the Neatlac or clearlac. Goes on just like NL, smells about the same, resist is about the same. They told me at Panhandle Leather that several years ago they could not get the NL and found the Clear Lac. Will get more information on it when I get home Tues. I have not poured them into a clear jar, but looking into the can to me the NL has a yellowish color and the CL is clear. RussH Edited March 10, 2009 by rharris Quote
gtwister09 Posted March 10, 2009 Report Posted March 10, 2009 Keith/others, I use Behr's Clear Lac Semi Gloss that you can get at Home Depot. I would imagine that you could get something similar at Woodworkers, Lowe's, Aces and other hardware and woodworking stores. Regards, Ben Quote
yaklady Posted March 10, 2009 Report Posted March 10, 2009 Kathy,Thanks for the report. I have used neat lac for the past 30+ years and have about 3 gallons left. But that won't last long. The new formula a couple of years ago does not work the same as the old and not nearly as well. I have about a gallon of the old recipe left and I hoard it for difficult or special projects. I looked up the RTC on the Bee Natural website and was surprised at the price. Quite a difference from $35 gal for the toxic chemical to the all "natural" at $110 gal. Does it go farther, or do you use about the same volume? I read above where it requires two coats to resist antique. RHarris What about this clear lac from panhandle leather? What are its characteristics? I feel like an amateur again researching new finishes! HAHA Keith To be honest with you, Keith, I haven't used it all that much, just a little experimenting here and there. Like you, I like the Neat Lac. I have a feeling you would go through the RTC faster because you do need two coats. You may be able to get away with one, but I don't trust it that much and don't want to ruin a project, so I use 2. I had no idea what a gallon of the stuff costs. I don't think I really wanted to know! Another example of that kind of pricing is with contact cement. That new stuff Tandy's has works great, but who can afford it? Just go down to Home Depot or even Walmart and you can get contact cement that smells bad, works great and costs a lot less. Deb hit the nail right on the head. Every time something is popular, they get rid of it! Why does society work that way? Yaks aren't popular. Anyone want one? I have an extra one! Kathy Quote All bad yaks make their way to the freezer.
Members kseidel Posted March 10, 2009 Members Report Posted March 10, 2009 Keith/others,I use Behr's Clear Lac Semi Gloss that you can get at Home Depot. I would imagine that you could get something similar at Woodworkers, Lowe's, Aces and other hardware and woodworking stores. Regards, Ben Ben, My fears with lacquers formulated for wood is that they would dry to a hard finish over time. When used in leather they would penetrate deeper than wood and when the leather flexes might crack the finish and maybe the leather. What are your experiences? Keith Quote Keith Seidel Seidel's Saddlery www.seidelsaddlery.com
Members kseidel Posted March 10, 2009 Members Report Posted March 10, 2009 KeithI can not tell any difference in the Neatlac or clearlac. Goes on just like NL, smells about the same, resist is about the same. They told me at Panhandle Leather that several years ago they could not get the NL and found the Clear Lac. Will get more information on it when I get home Tues. I have not poured them into a clear jar, but looking into the can to me the NL has a yellowish color and the CL is clear. RussH I called panhandle leather, they are currently out of stock but expecting a shipment. They said that the mfg company began making the clear lac about 15 years ago as a replacement for neat lac the first time Tandy quit making it. They have been making clear lac ever since. He did not know any of the ingredients. I will try it and report on the results. Thanks to all of you for your input in this matter. Keith Quote Keith Seidel Seidel's Saddlery www.seidelsaddlery.com
Members rharris Posted March 10, 2009 Members Report Posted March 10, 2009 Keith and Others Here is the web site for Leather Coating, Inc. that makes the Clear Lac. http://www.leathercoatings.com I went to their web site and could not find Clear Lac, but their name is on the label. RussH Quote
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