Solid Rivets

[NoahL]

Hello everyone,

Wasn't exactly sure if this should be in Suppliers or Hardware & Accessories, so if one of my threads needs to be deleted, that's fine. I'm curious to know if anyone out there knows where I might be able to get burr-style rivets that aren't made of copper. Steel would be great, aluminum or nickel-plated works fine, too. It just seems to me that the burr-style rivets are sturdier than those rapid rivets that I have, seeing as they are solid. I'm planning on making more belts, and I would like to use the sturdiest rivets I can, but I don't like the color of copper/brass for what I have in my mind. Alternatively, would solid rivets like these work on leather belts? I ask because I would think they would be plenty sturdy, and they seem to come in steel and aluminum.

~Noah

[Tkleather1]

Hello everyone,

Wasn't exactly sure if this should be in Suppliers or Hardware & Accessories, so if one of my threads needs to be deleted, that's fine. I'm curious to know if anyone out there knows where I might be able to get burr-style rivets that aren't made of copper. Steel would be great, aluminum or nickel-plated works fine, too. It just seems to me that the burr-style rivets are sturdier than those rapid rivets that I have, seeing as they are solid. I'm planning on making more belts, and I would like to use the sturdiest rivets I can, but I don't like the color of copper/brass for what I have in my mind. Alternatively, would solid rivets like these work on leather belts? I ask because I would think they would be plenty sturdy, and they seem to come in steel and aluminum.

~Noah

Those look interesting but how do you set them? What retains them?

[NoahL]

Those look interesting but how do you set them? What retains them?

Excellent question! I have absolutely no idea, myself. They look pretty much like the copper burr rivets, but without the little washer. I'm thinking that I will probably have to e-mail them and ask

[Tkleather1]

The problem that I see with these is that I think that they are like Steel working rivets. You place these rivets through the holes and peen the heck out of them and it mushrooms the end and in steel they will not pull through the holes, with leather however I dont think that the "mushroom" would hold as the leather would stretch around it and pull through.

Just my thoughts and I am not positive on the retention or the outcome it just seems that way to me. Good luck and keep us posted.

[NoahL]

That may very well be how they work, but I would think you could put a washer on it like those copper burr rivets and prevent them from pulling through. I sent an e-mail to the company that makes those, so hopefully on Monday they will respond and tell me how those things work. Also, one of my brothers is in the High School's robotics club, and he informed me that they use steel burr rivets (exactly what I was looking for) on their robots, so he's going to try and get some of those for me. We'll see how those two routes work out, and I'll let you know.

[Kevin]

Just a note; just about anything with iron in it when combined with moisture will eventually burn, or rot leather. Kevin

[superchute]

NoahL stop by your local farm store like Running or tractor supply and ask for sickel rivets for mower or swather thay should have all kinds for you. these will be steal ones most with round heads. Make shere to peen them one vice or some think hard not on your marble or it will brake it for shere. You can by sets or just use a ball peen hammer to set them.

Russ

[NoahL]

@ Kevin: I had thought that it was iron oxide specifically that would cause the deterioration and discoloration of leather? Being that these are stainless steel, in particular (or possibly aluminum, I'm not 100% sure), I wouldn't think that they would cause that, especially if I put a coat of clear nail polish over the pieces first, although I'm not sure how well that would work either.

@Russ: Are those pop rivets? I found a few images of sickle bar rivets on Google, but a search of the TSC website only brought up copper burr rivets, Easy-To-Do rivets, pop rivets, and these, which I can't tell if they are solid or hollow. Are those what you are referring to?

Thanks for your help, both of you!

[superchute]

that is them but they are high priced there i buy a box of 100 for that. Those are solid a pop rive has a nail thing coming out of them might check the farm equp dealers .

Russ

[Mick]

that is them but they are high priced there i buy a box of 100 for that. Those are solid a pop rive has a nail thing coming out of them might check the farm equp dealers .

Russ

Sounds like Russ has had the fun of setting a few of those. We did too, we used a short piece of train track with a divot for the rivet head on our IHC mower sickle. Those nut and bolt replacements would have been nice, but kinda expensive. Grandpa had a tool that he'd screw down over the rivet, had a piece on each side to hold it and pinch it. When we had some that were too long, we'd heat them and then beat them down.

Question about the burr rivets, how long/how much would normally stick up above the leather before setting it with the splash tool? So far I've gotten all mine from http://www.brettunsvillage.com/leather/parts/parts.html

thanks, Mick