Hilly Posted May 18, 2009 Report Posted May 18, 2009 What an interesting connundrum...<snip> I'm sure that killing animals for food/leather/whatever would be seen as the height of cruelty by some cultures - maybe they are right? Maybe they are completely wrong - who is to say? <snip> Ray, it's much easier (and less cruel, too) to eat animals AFTER they're dead. I just don't agree with torturing the food first. Quote
Contributing Member UKRay Posted May 19, 2009 Contributing Member Report Posted May 19, 2009 Ray, it's much easier (and less cruel, too) to eat animals AFTER they're dead. I just don't agree with torturing the food first. No argument with that, Hilly. In fact, as a writer, I'd have to argue for your right to say it! But at the same time, I'd have to argue for the Horse guy's freedom to say what he believes too. He thinks he is right and so do you. However, I may not agree with either of you... Quote "Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps" Ray Hatley www.barefootleather.co.uk
Contributing Member Crystal Posted May 19, 2009 Contributing Member Report Posted May 19, 2009 Just a couple of my favorites: I wonder what would happen if I spent more time with my dog: Odd friends: Not a YouTube video - but scroll down about 1/3 of the page and there is a video. Betcha haven't seen a cow like this! http://www.lurchandtheherd.com/about-janice/ Enjoy! Crystal Quote Black Dog Custom Leather
Members whinewine Posted May 19, 2009 Members Report Posted May 19, 2009 Hey Art, it would've been nice to post a warning about this one. To each his own, but I really prefer to NOT see animals being tortured. I don't have a problem with killing an animal quickly, and as humanely as possible for food, but I do have a problem with idiots who make a living out of torturing them. Not to dispute the cruelty aspect, nor to dispute the cultural aspect, either, but this was a way to tenderize meat before modern methods were invented (like keeping animals confined in cages for their entire lives without exercise & forcefeeding them is not torturing them either?...). When animals roamed free, the meat was mostly muscle & meat was tough. "Torturing" animals, as it is put, to the point of exhaustion, causes lactic acid to be released into the muscles, which in turn tenderizes the muscles. This is why atheletes don't run 2 marathons one right after another- their muscles are loaded with lactic acid, & they are weak & can't perform again until the lactic acid is out of their systems. Again, what is perceived as cruelty may or may not be in the light of the origins of the practice. The second last time we were in Mexico, the one cable channel provided live bullfighting every Wednesday, I believe. It was, for me, both abhorrent & fascinating at the same time. The dead bull was awarded honor & had his picture displayed after the match, almost as a rock star. So how different cultures view certain events is dependent upon the culture. Quote
Members Casey Jordan Posted May 19, 2009 Members Report Posted May 19, 2009 Horsemanship at it's finest. Grab a hanky! Quote Casey Jordan www.caseyjordansaddle.com www.artofthecowboymakers.com Q: Do you have A.D.D.? A: Look, there's a chicken
Members wildrose Posted May 20, 2009 Author Members Report Posted May 20, 2009 That made me think of two scenes from favorite horse movies of mine: (the music in the movie was much better...mixing in music from Spirit didn't do it for me)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgnJgZ2yQdc...feature=related (starting around 2:20) Quote Holly Moore Wild Rose Creations http://www.wrcleather.com
Members CitizenKate Posted May 20, 2009 Members Report Posted May 20, 2009 Horsemanship at it's finest. Grab a hanky! You had me at: "Thanks for teaching me to keep trying new things." Which of course is what my dad always did, too. Thanks for sharing that. Kate Quote
MADMAX22 Posted May 27, 2009 Report Posted May 27, 2009 Thought this was way cool. Smart little critters. Vid gets better toward the second half. Quote
Members wildrose Posted May 27, 2009 Author Members Report Posted May 27, 2009 WHOA! That's cool! I just love dolphins anyhow. Quote Holly Moore Wild Rose Creations http://www.wrcleather.com
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