Horn Wrap

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What is the weight of the latigo?

[jonwatsabaugh]

I think mine was 8-9 oz. 6-7 oz. would work OK also.

Jon

[bruce johnson]

I have had Chinamans made out of three different materials. The original was latigo, and Darc is right about the soap and water to bleed out the excess dye. I retired it when I made one out of pearl apron split to use on those wraps. Soap them up good and they slick down pretty well, and have a lot of tensile strength. Ended up and got some dye on it last summer when everything got moved out of the shop, and I made one out of a horse butt. That was good but finally tore a few weeks ago.

My new one being made in the next few days should be the ticket. I am making it with "chrome elk" from Sheridan Leather. It is not elk, but is a full grain pearl apron leather. That should prevent the dye rub off problem. I have been looking for this leather for at least 3 years. Nobody seemed to know what I was talking about. I first saw it on a bronc saddle and wondered what that leather was on the bottom of the seat that was not worn out. I called Broken Arrow and he told me it was full grain pearl apron that he got several years ago. Yesterday at Elko, there it was in Vandy's display. BTW, it is reported to make really dandy hornwraps too.

[steveh]

I have had Chinamans made out of three different materials. The original was latigo, and Darc is right about the soap and water to bleed out the excess dye. I retired it when I made one out of pearl apron split to use on those wraps. Soap them up good and they slick down pretty well, and have a lot of tensile strength. Ended up and got some dye on it last summer when everything got moved out of the shop, and I made one out of a horse butt. That was good but finally tore a few weeks ago.

My new one being made in the next few days should be the ticket. I am making it with "chrome elk" from Sheridan Leather. It is not elk, but is a full grain pearl apron leather. That should prevent the dye rub off problem. I have been looking for this leather for at least 3 years. Nobody seemed to know what I was talking about. I first saw it on a bronc saddle and wondered what that leather was on the bottom of the seat that was not worn out. I called Broken Arrow and he told me it was full grain pearl apron that he got several years ago. Yesterday at Elko, there it was in Vandy's display. BTW, it is reported to make really dandy hornwraps too.

Bruce,

question about the chrome elk. Is it cow hide? What is the weight in oz? What color is it, Is sold as side or a whole hide?

Thank you,

Steve

[bruce johnson]

Steve,

The "chrome elk" is 7/8 cow side. It is a very light gray/almost white color. The color is supposed to be very consistant, unlike some of the pearl apron splits I get that vary from steel gray to blue to white.

[buckarooTB]

If i want to use latigo hornwrap, can i just take from my side of 8/9 ounce latigo or what do i use for that?

[Goldshot Ron]

You can use a latigo chinaman to tighten a latigo hornwrap; however, when using a light colored leather (mule hide) for your horn wrap, you need to make a chinaman out of the same material or color.  Dye from the burgundy latigo will rub off on the lighter leather.  I lost points in a saddle contest because of this.  I now have two chinamen in the shop.

[buckarooTB]

thanks a lot

[cowboycolonel]

Hey TB, I only use a latigo wrap for looks.  I do NOT rope on one because the rope doesn't "bite".  I have nor had any problem with the dye transferring from latigo to mulehide.  Split that 8/9 down to about 3/4 and skive the edges.  Then soak it and apply plent of saddle soap to the chinaman.  Then go to work.