Members bluebeard Posted September 30, 2009 Members Report Posted September 30, 2009 Hey mates, Iv gone thru what iv thought is every leather braidding site on the web. Iv gone thru the whole braidding list on this site . I just would like to learn how to tie a" Button knot, stopper knot,or what ever the hell its called and how to back braid.. This is done on a herringbone 8 strand braid.. Really, Iv looked on the web for hours and searching images and sites And i have not found how to do this.. the pic shows what i want to make.. Iv got the Plating just fine, not so the button knot or the back braiding...The other knot a small turks head i think.. I think iv said that enough ways for some one to help me out... Thank you Bluebeard Quote
Members Maeve Posted September 30, 2009 Members Report Posted September 30, 2009 I don't see any back braiding on this bracelet so I am not sure what you are asking. Sorry! The way that this one is started is with 4 strings 4-plaited in the center then folded over to an 8 plait. The button is unique .... I think John does this one and the name evades me at the moment .... but you can do a gaucho, herringbone or whatever over a terminal knot. Is that what you need to know? How to do the terminal knot under the button? I have photographs documenting an 8-plait back braid if you want to see how *I* do it. Let me know and I'll post them for you (later this week, I'm afraid). Sheesh ... I feel like I didn't answer a thing! M Quote
Members bluebeard Posted September 30, 2009 Author Members Report Posted September 30, 2009 I don't see any back braiding on this bracelet so I am not sure what you are asking. Sorry! The way that this one is started is with 4 strings 4-plaited in the center then folded over to an 8 plait. The button is unique .... I think John does this one and the name evades me at the moment .... but you can do a gaucho, herringbone or whatever over a terminal knot. Is that what you need to know? How to do the terminal knot under the button? I have photographs documenting an 8-plait back braid if you want to see how *I* do it. Let me know and I'll post them for you (later this week, I'm afraid). Sheesh ... I feel like I didn't answer a thing! M Hey mate, Thanks for that. I guess after you said two fours to eight and new that I new this.. AS for the end knot I don't care how its made ,just as long as it looks like the one in the pic..Bluebeard Quote
Members KnotHead Posted September 30, 2009 Members Report Posted September 30, 2009 (edited) The button knot is a Ginifer knot. I don't think you looked everywhere on the net for it. Here is a tutorial on that specific knot, Ginfer Knot Tutorial Brian... Edited September 30, 2009 by KnotHead Quote Best Regards, Brian Kidd
Members bluebeard Posted September 30, 2009 Author Members Report Posted September 30, 2009 Hey mates.. ( great aussie word, I love it,..)is there a tutorial for this braclet some where...I live in aussie land.. I would like to sell them on the esplanade on sunshine coast..( ocean front)I am out of work and it seems no one needs a old pegleg pirate around.. Iv made a jig that gos on my pegleg, It holds my wares and makes my braiding platform... I will show pics when I can.. Im trying to find things that look good to me and i would like to make.. Bluebeard Quote
Members rgerbitz Posted September 30, 2009 Members Report Posted September 30, 2009 If you are going to be doing much braiding I would recommend buying the book Encyclpedia of Rawhide and Leather Braiding. In it you will find all you need to make most any kind of braided gear. What you are showing here as a braclet is how some of us make what is called a San juan style hondo. You start in the middle of 4 strings and make about an inch of a 4 plait braid. You then make a loop and braided an 8 plait as long as is needed. Then thread every thing through the loop you previously made and tie some sort of terminal knot. Which you can cover with any variation of a turks head knot. If none of this is clear, buy the book. Rob Quote http://gerbitzquarterhorses.com/
Members LBbyJ Posted October 1, 2009 Members Report Posted October 1, 2009 Hi BlueBeard, thanks for posting a picture of my bracelet to the board, I usually don't show off to much. The Bracelet is an 8 strand Gaucho braid over a 3 or 4 mm core and the end knot is a Aztec Button knot over a terminal knot. There isn't any back braiding to the bracelet I just use 4 strands to make the hoop (4 strand braid) and then bring them together for the 8 strand braid. The knots (and the braid) are from the Bruce Grant Encyclopedia mentioned above and the other knot by the hoop is a Gaucho knot. For your other pictures they look like a turks head knot or interwoven turks head knot. I believe it maybe possible to tie the end knots from the strands being braided but it is easier to use a separate strand to make the knot just use a terminal knot to end the braid and that'll give the cover knot something to bite on to so it won't fall off. Drop me a note if you have more questions, john Quote ************************* John Woj Leather Braiding by John http://www.LBbyJ.com
Members rawhide1 Posted October 1, 2009 Members Report Posted October 1, 2009 (edited) bluebeard I agree about the book mentioned as being a great source to have if ya plan on doing any braiding. But if ya don't have the money to buy the book and ya don't understand something by all means ask until ya do. It wasn't that long ago that I had to keep asking questions to finally figure something out. And I know there's other folks on here who have done the same that's what this place is all about. So if I can help I will as will others. Keep after it and you'll get it. Mike Edited October 1, 2009 by rawhide1 Quote
Members bluebeard Posted October 1, 2009 Author Members Report Posted October 1, 2009 (edited) By the powers invested in me I now pronunce you 8 strand braid to become a terminal knot. O,, It didn't become a terminal knot. Damn, I wonder why Knot..So then how does it become a terminal knot. On this site I read that any# of strands can be made into a terminal knot. I can put a wall and crown on a 5part 4 bight braid..I can also stand on my head sometimes..But I can't tie it on a 8 plait..I know its done.. I see many examples of it on this site..Or rather ,I see what covers them , pineapple knots and turksheads..The book I do have I eventually get whats being shown..I tryed to tie the 5part 4bight turkshead over and over and.. lots.. finally I could see what I was looking for and now I tie very well..Anyway, I guess its one knot at a time...So apart from magic which i have none of, Hows one tie a terminal knot in a 8part herringbone braid.. P.S. this is my new roo stamp.. Bluebeard roo coming home6.bmp roo coming home6.bmp Edited October 1, 2009 by bluebeard Quote
Members rgerbitz Posted October 2, 2009 Members Report Posted October 2, 2009 With what you are trying to build in making the wall or crown knot I would select only 4 strands of the 8 braid to make the knot you can use all of them but it seems to be a bit diffecult to get everything pulled down nice. Rob Quote http://gerbitzquarterhorses.com/
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