Cambell-Randall stitcher

[ryano]

I am looking for a cambell-randall needle and awl machine for a fair, reasonable price. You will not make a half of a years salary off of me! lol

Thanks!

Ryan

[Dink]

Good luck with this I have also been watching for one, Canbell Bosworth has them and jack joseph has a couple you are looking at +- 4000 complete. I have also been considering the landis 16

I am looking for a cambell-randall needle and awl machine for a fair, reasonable price. You will not make a half of a years salary off of me! lol

Thanks!

Ryan

[jman]

I bought a campbell from Jack at oldcowpoke a couple a months ago and it is worth every penny.

Edited October 18, 2009 by jman

[ryano]

I just started the search for one. I do have some parts, razor feet and plates and 3 sets of pricker feet (5-12) for this machine. Something will show up eventually, I hope. Did the Old Cow poke treat you well on this machine?

Thanks,

Ryan

[jman]

Yes, he did treat me well. He shipped the machne to me - 2 000 miles and it arrived 2.5 days later. The machine is everything he said it was.

[ryano]

I was just informed that the Cambell machines were lease machines and the Randalls were bought machines. Meaning that the serial number on the Cambell machines should be called in to make sure they have a clear title before you purchace it. If they do not and you buy it, the machine will be taken away from you by Cambell. You then will have to pay Cambell for a complete machine rebuild and not even have a machine. That is one of the biggest crocks I have ever heard. Cam someone please elaborate on this?

Thanks!

Edited October 21, 2009 by ryano

[Ken Nelson]

Check the message board on Proleptic Inc. There have been several hook and awl machines on it.

[CampbellRandall]

I was just informed that the Cambell machines were lease machines and the Randalls were bought machines. Meaning that the serial number on the Cambell machines should be called in to make sure they have a clear title before you purchace it. If they do not and you buy it, the machine will be taken away from you by Cambell. You then will have to pay Cambell for a complete machine rebuild and not even have a machine. That is one of the biggest crocks I have ever heard. Cam someone please elaborate on this?

Thanks!

I'm not sure who told you this, but its not entirely true.

Yes - for many years Campbell's were lease only (rent) machines. Customers could buy the lease and rent the machines for about $50 a month. This became a problem in later years due to all the paperwork and taxes we had to pay for the program. In the last decade we sold most of the lease machines to the customers, and new customers have the option to lease to own. It just makes more sense for us and the customer.

To make matters worse, we had a few bad apples stop paying rent and then fell off the radar with the machines. These were stolen machines. We were able to track most of them down, but a few are still floating around. For new customers, we ask for the serial numbers of used machines. If we find the machine was stolen, we may ask for information on the previous owner so we can prosecute if necessary. We have never repossessed a machine without some compensation or options to the unlucky owner. We will not force anyone to buy a rebuilt machine.

Now, if you buy a stolen car and the owner asks for it back, is that wrong? If you are going to buy a used machine, its worth the free phone call to check if the serial number is legit. Also be careful who you are buying from. If the deal sounds to good to be true, it may be.

[ryano]

I'm not sure who told you this, but its not entirely true.

Yes - for many years Campbell's were lease only (rent) machines. Customers could buy the lease and rent the machines for about $50 a month. This became a problem in later years due to all the paperwork and taxes we had to pay for the program. In the last decade we sold most of the lease machines to the customers, and new customers have the option to lease to own. It just makes more sense for us and the customer.

To make matters worse, we had a few bad apples stop paying rent and then fell off the radar with the machines. These were stolen machines. We were able to track most of them down, but a few are still floating around. For new customers, we ask for the serial numbers of used machines. If we find the machine was stolen, we may ask for information on the previous owner so we can prosecute if necessary. We have never repossessed a machine without some compensation or options to the unlucky owner. We will not force anyone to buy a rebuilt machine.

Now, if you buy a stolen car and the owner asks for it back, is that wrong? If you are going to buy a used machine, its worth the free phone call to check if the serial number is legit. Also be careful who you are buying from. If the deal sounds to good to be true, it may be.

Thanks for the great response! The only thing I thought was a crock, was if you had to return the machine plus $3500.00 to rebuild it. You will be getting a phone call very soon on a serial number. Thanks again.

[Hilly]

Please excuse my ignorance, but can someone please explain the difference between a regular old machine, such as an Artisan Toro 3000 and a needle and awl machine? What are they used for? Can you post some examples of the stitching difference between a "regular" machine and a needle and awl machine? I know it's probably asking a lot, but enquiring minds want to know.

Thanks much,

Hilly