Adler 30-1 Threading Problem

[Wizcrafts]

ok, its time for parts quiz time!! put your thinking caps on, and NO GUESSES!

please add/correct anything i have wrong/missing....

1. Thumb Screw - locks/loostens the foot (swings 360 degrees)

2. Tension Plates - FOR DARNING??

3. Tension Plates (upper) - using this one, knob adjusts tension on upper thread

4. Take up lever adjustment

5. Presser foot drop down

6. Stitch length regulator - the lower the bracket, the longer the stitch? (at lowest setting now, still getting 10-12 stitches per inch... too tight!)

7. Leather 'washer' over 'puck' - unsure of why this is here, but machine will not work without it. 'puck' doesnt raise enough without it to reach the bar to move the foot

8. Wing nut - adjusts the lift of the foot?

9. ??? does this adjust the pressure of the foot onto the material? (i am getting pressure foot marks on the material, its pushing down too hard)

THANKS!!!

Yes to all, but #2. It can be a second tensioner for thick top thread, if needed, or a tension disk feeding the bobbin winder. Also, the leather spacer under the lift adjuster means that the lifter or puck has worn down. You set the pressor foot tension with the thumbscrew in the middle of the leaf spring. If the teeth are marking the material too much, back off a turn, or two. You just need enough tension to pull the work evenly, to stitch it. The short stitches are the result of a worn puck inside the rotating assembly, at the bottom of the head. See if you can find replacement parts pertaining to the pressor foot bracket assembly.

[ginny]

wiz, thanks for your confirmations here...

you mention the "You set the pressor foot tension with the thumbscrew in the middle of the leaf spring" which # is that, or did i even give it a #?

any resources for parts (websites or whatnot) that i should try? i do have a shop kinda near me that works on commercial/industrial machines so i will call them too, but i dont think i want to pay what they are going to ask... id rather do it myself if possible.

thanks again!

you ALL are a blessing and a Godsend!!

[Wizcrafts]

wiz, thanks for your confirmations here...

you mention the "You set the pressor foot tension with the thumbscrew in the middle of the leaf spring" which # is that, or did i even give it a #?

any resources for parts (websites or whatnot) that i should try? i do have a shop kinda near me that works on commercial/industrial machines so i will call them too, but i dont think i want to pay what they are going to ask... id rather do it myself if possible.

thanks again!

you ALL are a blessing and a Godsend!!

Ginny;

I believe you labeled the leaf spring number 9. It is a long flat spring on the back of the machine, with a big screw adjuster near the middle of it. Its front end goes into a slot in the back of the head, and applies downward pressure to the pressor foot. Tighten or loosen the adjuster screw in the middle of the long leaf spring to control the pressure of the foot.

Good luck with your patcher. If anybody on this forum has Adler parts they will let you know about it. Otherwise, contact Bob Kovar, at Toledo Industrial Sewing Machine Sales, at: 419-380-8540. I know he has Singer patcher parts, so maybe he'll have some for your Adler.

Really, all you need to fix is the problem of wear in the pressor foot mechanism, where it goes up into the ring in the bottom of the head and that lift adjuster that you say needs a strip of leather to lift properly. That's two or three parts. Shouldn't cost much more than a thousand dollars! LOL

[ginny]

so i took the leaf spring off the back, and noticed that it has a pretty significant curve to it. is that normal, or has it 'warped' over time?

Ginny;

I believe you labeled the leaf spring number 9. It is a long flat spring on the back of the machine, with a big screw adjuster near the middle of it. Its front end goes into a slot in the back of the head, and applies downward pressure to the pressor foot. Tighten or loosen the adjuster screw in the middle of the long leaf spring to control the pressure of the foot.

Good luck with your patcher. If anybody on this forum has Adler parts they will let you know about it. Otherwise, contact Bob Kovar, at Toledo Industrial Sewing Machine Sales, at: 419-380-8540. I know he has Singer patcher parts, so maybe he'll have some for your Adler.

Really, all you need to fix is the problem of wear in the pressor foot mechanism, where it goes up into the ring in the bottom of the head and that lift adjuster that you say needs a strip of leather to lift properly. That's two or three parts. Shouldn't cost much more than a thousand dollars! LOL

[nele]

Hi,

I just discovered this forum, because I wanted to buy a beautiful adler 30, but when I got to the seller, there seemed some 'minor' problems with the machine. So now I'm looking for advice or a mechanics manual. I'm a bit in a hurry, as I have not bought the machine yet, but if it really is a minor problem, I want to notify him as quikly as possible.

So, now about the problem The machine looks absolutely fine, but the needle is - when completely down - about three milimeters from the hole in the arm it should be going through. The foot is turning beautifully around the hole, so nothhing's wrong there, except that it doesn't seems to take the leather.

Someone an idea whether it is fixeable, or had this problem theirselves?

Thank you very much,

Nele.

hey all! long time lurker, 1st post!

i am *ahem* machine sitting an adler 30-1 for my brother in law until i can get my COBRA FROM STEVE!!

bro-in-law confirms that the machine did sew when he got it, so i know it works... i have done some LIGHT cleaning (nothing major) and have oiled the machine. i have a photocopy of a singer 29-4 instruction manual, a 29-k70 instruction manual and the adler 30 manual for mechanics.... however i am having a hard time getting it to thread correctly.

at this point, i have the upper thread threaded correctly, to the best i can tell... and have the bobbin in the shuttle. when i hand crank the wheel, the needle goes down, but does not pick up the bobbin thread. i am sure it is something simple like incorrect bobbin placement or something like this... but i am not sure how to fix from this point.

anyone that can provide some help would be welcome... and if pictures/video are needed to explain, i will be happy to take/post.

thanks for the great forums here, youve been very helpful so far!

[Luke Hatley]

NELE........IF THE MACHINE IS IN GREAT LOOKING SHAPE AND THE PRICE IS LOW.

TAKE IT TO A SEWING MACHINE MECHANIC, LET HIM LOOK AT IT AND GET THE PRICE TO FIX ANYTHING THAT IS WRONG, THEN YOU WILL HAVE A GREAT PATCH MACHINE.... LIKE I SAID A "PATCH MACHINE"

[ginny]

anyone have any thoughts on the rear spring?? see picture/comment about 3 posts ago.

can i 'flip' it over and use it the other way to bend it back? or is it supposed to be that curved to begin with?

thanks!

[ginny]

ok, flipped over the spring... and have some 'jerry rigging' going, but sucessful! i am getting longer stitches (i think because the foot isnt pressing down so hard, it can advance properly)... and so far so good.

ultimately, the patcher isnt the solution to my stitching needs, but it will keep me going for now... until i get my cobra from steve!!

and, a quick plug for steve, he called me today to check in on the adler. though i have promised to buying his machine, he has not received a penny from me, yet took the time to call and check in on my used adler, and offer any support he could. thanks steve!

and thanks to all of you for taking the time to help me with this machine! i am more grateful than you will ever know!

-ginny

anyone have any thoughts on the rear spring?? see picture/comment about 3 posts ago.

can i 'flip' it over and use it the other way to bend it back? or is it supposed to be that curved to begin with?

thanks!

[Wizcrafts]

Ginny;

That's interesting about your spring. Mine is also bowed downwards, but not as much. Maybe someone mistakenly forced your leaf spring into an excessive arch, creating too much pressure on the foot. Do you still need that leather spacer under the lift adjuster slider over the spring?

Things like this are a learning experience for all who have patchers. Who would-a thunk it?

[ginny]

Wiz, i am actually going to see if i can get someone who knows steel/cast iron? to bend it back straight.... or straighter...

i have experimented both with and without the leather spacer... i think that fixing the spring will eliminate the need for the spacer, but we will see.

unfortunately, flipping it over kinda just takes it from one extreme to the other, but i really think there is a happy medium somewhere!!

i am still having difficulty getting the tension right on the thread. i have the bobbin tension set as tight as i can. i have loosened the top tension as much as possible, even to the point of just taking the spring off. i still have 'tight upper tension' according to the example images in the instruction manual. any thoughts about this?