SInger 42 Class - Any opinions?

[nuncanunca]

Hello All,

I am going to go look at a Singer 42 class machine this weekend. They don't seem to be as common as some of the other old machines out there - does anyone have experience with these machines? I was able to find out from the serial number that it is a 42 class built in 1913, and learned from the owner that it is a walking foot - I don't know if its the "alternating presser" type or the "vibrating pressor." The singer manual says it takes up to size 25 needle - 16x63 or 16x64. With a little searching I have figured out that the 16x64 leather needles are hard to find, but the 63s are available.

Does anyone know:

1. if another needle system will work?

2. if a size 25 needle (207 thread) is a bit obtimistic for this machine? (it has a pretty big flywheel)

3. if there are any issues with these machines to watch for?

Thanks!

Dave

[CowboyBob]

Dave,

Yes,this machine has a spring loaded foot,the outside swings back with the feed dog.This machine will use up tp 346 nylon w/a #26 needle,277 w/a#25 or 207 w/a #23

we always changed them to a 135x16 just alittle shorter needle that is very easy to get.

Bob

[nuncanunca]

Thanks Bob! are you able to get the hooks and bobbin cases for the machine?

[CowboyBob]

If it has the long beak type of shuttle they aren't being made anymore,but I think I know where I can get some used ones if needed.Some machine might have a round bobbin.

Bob

[nuncanunca]

If it has the long beak type of shuttle they aren't being made anymore,but I think I know where I can get some used ones if needed.Some machine might have a round bobbin.

Bob

Thanks Bob, I will send you a p.m.

[Kate]

I have a Singer 42-5, that's one with the big hook and bobbin. It's not real pretty, but in fine shape mechanically. Bobbins are a little hard to find for it, as is a bobbin WINDER - I cheated a new one to fit.

This is an alternating presser machine, not great feeding for much over a couple of layers of 9-ounce veg tan, but SUPERB stitch quality for doing chaps and the like. I am running 29 class wedge point needles in it - yep, same needle as the Singer 29 class patcher uses - and they run just fine. You can get them in the whole range of sizes and points, so it really makes the machine worthwhile.

Mine is in a treadle stand - love that silent running

Kate

[nuncanunca]

Thanks Kate! I actually found some old posts of yours on the shoe forum regarding the 42-5 and the 29 needles - along with some other helpful info about the 42. I can't wait to get mine set up! Just waiting on a replacement hook and some room in the garage...

I got my machine from a retired shoe guy - he didn't have any extras with it, but I compared the needle that was in the machine to my 29 needles, and other than being a bit shorter they were about the same. I already ordered some 135x16 needles from Bob to try, but its good to know the 29s will work too. Bob also said he can get the bobbins if you need them...

Dave

[Kate]

Hey Dave, did you get your 42 up and running? Which version did it turn out to be? I have an operators manual for it (and I think there's a parts manual too) that I downloaded off the Singer industrial site. VERY helpful to have those....

Kate

Thanks Kate! I actually found some old posts of yours on the shoe forum regarding the 42-5 and the 29 needles - along with some other helpful info about the 42. I can't wait to get mine set up! Just waiting on a replacement hook and some room in the garage...

I got my machine from a retired shoe guy - he didn't have any extras with it, but I compared the needle that was in the machine to my 29 needles, and other than being a bit shorter they were about the same. I already ordered some 135x16 needles from Bob to try, but its good to know the 29s will work too. Bob also said he can get the bobbins if you need them...

Dave

[ryano]

Hello,

I have a bobbin winder, some used hooks, bobbins and some other parts for these machines if you are interested. Send me a pm if ya are. Thanks!

[nuncanunca]

I did get it up an running- It is the 42-5 with the big hook. Once I replaced the bobbin case it only needed a few small adjustments and now it is sewing great. It is so nice to be able to use those bigger threads! Unfortunately mine didn't come with the oil cup, so I am going to have to rig something up in order to use some linen blend thread I have - but the polyester thread I have is working great!

I am in the process of moving & haven't had time to put it to work much, but I have got all kinds of project ideas simmering - I can't wait to get my shop set up again! I am looking to follow your lead and put it in a treadle.

I also have the parts & instruction manual from the Singer site.

By the way - I really like the gemstone browbands on your website. Do you use wire to hold the beads in place?

Dave

Hey Dave, did you get your 42 up and running? Which version did it turn out to be? I have an operators manual for it (and I think there's a parts manual too) that I downloaded off the Singer industrial site. VERY helpful to have those....

Kate