Members Happy Hooligan Posted August 5, 2010 Members Report Posted August 5, 2010 Hi, I picked up a my first walking foot machine and need help fine tuning it to work. It's a Singer 110W125. It was siezed up when I got it, but it running great now. But the needle won't pick up the bobbin thread. I'm sure it's just a light tweek, but is anyone here familiar with this machine or bobbin set up? thanks Pick is of pre clean up Quote
Members machinehead Posted August 6, 2010 Members Report Posted August 6, 2010 Hi, I picked up a my first walking foot machine and need help fine tuning it to work. It's a Singer 110W125. It was siezed up when I got it, but it running great now. But the needle won't pick up the bobbin thread. I'm sure it's just a light tweek, but is anyone here familiar with this machine or bobbin set up? thanks Pick is of pre clean up Quote
Members machinehead Posted August 6, 2010 Members Report Posted August 6, 2010 What class of needle are you using? Do you have the long groove in the needle to the left? Quote
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted August 6, 2010 Moderator Report Posted August 6, 2010 Hi, I picked up a my first walking foot machine and need help fine tuning it to work. It's a Singer 110W125. It was siezed up when I got it, but it running great now. But the needle won't pick up the bobbin thread. I'm sure it's just a light tweek, but is anyone here familiar with this machine or bobbin set up? thanks Pick is of pre clean up Unless my eyes deceive me, you have bought a roller foot machine, not a walking foot machine. Make sure you are using the correct needle series, so the length to the eye is correct and make sure the eye is facing right. Thread it from left to right. Rotate the wheel towards you, from the top (CCW). Stick to #69 bonded nylon thread, maximum. Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Members Happy Hooligan Posted August 6, 2010 Author Members Report Posted August 6, 2010 Unless my eyes deceive me, you have bought a roller foot machine, not a walking foot machine. Make sure you are using the correct needle series, so the length to the eye is correct and make sure the eye is facing right. Thread it from left to right. Rotate the wheel towards you, from the top (CCW). Stick to #69 bonded nylon thread, maximum. yes, sorry it is a roller foot machine not walking.... As to the needle I don't know, the machine came a box of needles with it. It belonged to a man who use to sew shoes for vaudeville and zelgfield girls... so it has a cool history. I'll take a video of where I might be having the problems. right now I'm just using a thicker thread but nothing huge. Quote
Members machinehead Posted August 6, 2010 Members Report Posted August 6, 2010 The original needle system called for by your machine is either 16x4 or 16x246. These measure 33.9 mm from the end of the shank to the eye, or just a little over a mm shy of 1 and 3/8". Like Wizcrafts says use #69 thread and a needle with an eye neither too big or too small. You can read about a neat trick to choose the proper size needle and thread combination in this forum. There is an online manual for your machine on the Singer Industrial Products website. Quote
Members Happy Hooligan Posted August 8, 2010 Author Members Report Posted August 8, 2010 (edited) [/media]here's a video of the trouble I'm having. Obliviously the bobbin won't be spinning as I took the plate off so you can see the action. Hopefully you experts will know instantly what I'm doing wrong.... also the hook strikes the needle just a tad....[media]http://s325.photobucket.com/albums/k361/happyhooligan70/?action=view¤t=MOV04611.mp4 Edited August 8, 2010 by Happy Hooligan Quote
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted August 8, 2010 Moderator Report Posted August 8, 2010 The timing is a little too late. Advance the hook until the point is in the center of the needle's eye indent, with the eye about 1/16" or so below the point. If the point is too far away, move it closer. The needle should just miss the point, depending on the size of the loop that is formed. Needle size is important for the loop. If you use too large of a needle, for the thread size, the top thread may not form a loop for the pick-up point to grab. Also, make sure that the machine is threaded properly and that the check spring stops moving down before the needle bottoms out. Too much check spring will draw up the top thread before a decent loop has formed. Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Members machinehead Posted August 8, 2010 Members Report Posted August 8, 2010 The timing is a little too late. Advance the hook until the point is in the center of the needle's eye indent, with the eye about 1/16" or so below the point. If the point is too far away, move it closer. The needle should just miss the point, depending on the size of the loop that is formed. Needle size is important for the loop. If you use too large of a needle, for the thread size, the top thread may not form a loop for the pick-up point to grab. Also, make sure that the machine is threaded properly and that the check spring stops moving down before the needle bottoms out. Too much check spring will draw up the top thread before a decent loop has formed. Quote
Members machinehead Posted August 8, 2010 Members Report Posted August 8, 2010 At least in the video, the needle appears to be in wrong. Thread the needle from the left side toward the hand wheel not front to back. Longest groove in the needle goes to your left hand. Also, there is a sort of triangular projection on the bobbin case. The thread comes out of the bobbin case slot in the thread tension spring and goes under the triangular tab and to its left. Quote
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