Toro 3000 Not Stitching Straight Pattern, How Do I Get Back To That?

[BigRiverLeather]

When I first got my Toro the stitches sewed in a perfectly straight line. over time it has gone more towards a zig-zag pattern for lack of a better term. You know, like it goes in one side of the hole and comes out the other.What is it that is causing that? I've checked my needle to be sure it is facing the proper direction.

The "manual" really gives no tips or hints. I wish Artisan would at least put a support section with common tips, tricks and fixes on their website.

If it matters, I did have the spring fall out of the bobbin case once while winding a new bobbin while I had inadvertently forgot to close the case. I put the spring back in but it doesn't seem the same as what it was. Since I'm not sure of what it was like before I have no point of reference.

Thanks,

Scott

[dirtclod]

Have you tried a new needle ? That one may be bent some.

[Wizcrafts]

When I first got my Toro the stitches sewed in a perfectly straight line. over time it has gone more towards a zig-zag pattern for lack of a better term. You know, like it goes in one side of the hole and comes out the other.What is it that is causing that? I've checked my needle to be sure it is facing the proper direction.

The "manual" really gives no tips or hints. I wish Artisan would at least put a support section with common tips, tricks and fixes on their website.

If it matters, I did have the spring fall out of the bobbin case once while winding a new bobbin while I had inadvertently forgot to close the case. I put the spring back in but it doesn't seem the same as what it was. Since I'm not sure of what it was like before I have no point of reference.

Thanks,

Scott

Without a picture of the stitching pattern, I am guessing that you have installed a leather point needle, with oval sides on a slight left to right angle. This needle causes the zig zag stitch pattern. You can escape from that by purchasing triangle or regular point needles. However, the regular point needles will hit much harder on thick or dense leather. The oval leather needles go in smoother.

[BigRiverLeather]

They are triangle tip needles, using 346 thread and I'm sure the needle is sized properly. New needles have made no difference.

[rickmoo]

hi, using 346 thread, make sure the bobbin thread is no larger than 277. also, is the spring installed correctly? i'm sure you are aware that the thickness and type of leather dictates which type of needle. also, the needle has to be straight and sharp. and the correct size.

[busted]

When I first got my Toro the stitches sewed in a perfectly straight line. over time it has gone more towards a zig-zag pattern for lack of a better term. You know, like it goes in one side of the hole and comes out the other.What is it that is causing that? I've checked my needle to be sure it is facing the proper direction.

The "manual" really gives no tips or hints. I wish Artisan would at least put a support section with common tips, tricks and fixes on their website.

If it matters, I did have the spring fall out of the bobbin case once while winding a new bobbin while I had inadvertently forgot to close the case. I put the spring back in but it doesn't seem the same as what it was. Since I'm not sure of what it was like before I have no point of reference.

Thanks,

Scott

Sounds like the needle bar has some wear on it. Leave the power off and turn the machine by hand. Place a piece of (clean meaning no holes) scrap under the needle leave the pressure foot down run the needle bar down with the hand wheel do this while keeping pressure on the needle bar with your left finger, thumb, hand what ever you want to use. Hold pressure to the left and change directions put pressure to the right. See how far you can move the needle left and right doing this. It won't take long to see what is loose or worn. It might not be this but is worth a try.

[BigRiverLeather]

yep, 277 thread is on the bottom, sewing 7/8 and 8/9 oz leather.

Busted, thanks for that tip. I'll try that tomorrow. Machine is only about 8 months old with maybe 100 holsters through it. I wish I could call Dave at artisan but I work a day job too and am never at my machine when he is open.

I've got pictures but they will have to wait until tomorrow.

[oldtimer]

They are triangle tip needles, using 346 thread and I'm sure the needle is sized properly. New needles have made no difference.

Get some S-point needles, they lay a straight stitch.

[CowboyBob]

Oldtimer is correct you need to use the 794S point,that is our biggest selling needle for leather.They will make a real nice looking stitch because they make a cut in the leather that's in line with the stitching.

[TwinOaks]

Bob, I think BRL is saying that the needle is no longer punching holes in a straight line, which it should do, regardless of the needle type. I agree with Busted, you have something loose or worn allowing the needle bar to move.

BRL, call Steve Tayrien at Cobra Leather (contact number on the ad banner), and tell him what kind of problems you're having. Odds are that he can diagnose the issue over the phone and probably talk you through the repair. He's intimately familiar with the machines and you'll get to see how he has earned his reputation for service.