Durable Dot Vs Baby Dot Snaps?

[lazybum]

Hi im new to leathercraft and I noticed that snap setters have either the "durable dot" kind or the "baby dot" kind. Is there a difference between these two kind of snaps? Which is more common? If I buy a baby dot snap setter then that means I won't be able to use it with durable dot snaps?

And there is this setter in springfield leather: http://springfieldleather.com/store/product/23489/Setter%2CLine-24-%26-20-Snap%2CAnvil/

According to the description it can be used for both line 20 and 24 snaps. Is that really possible or is it too good to be true?

[busted]

Hi im new to leathercraft and I noticed that snap setters have either the "durable dot" kind or the "baby dot" kind. Is there a difference between these two kind of snaps? Which is more common? If I buy a baby dot snap setter then that means I won't be able to use it with durable dot snaps?

And there is this setter in springfield leather: http://springfieldle...0-Snap%2CAnvil/

According to the description it can be used for both line 20 and 24 snaps. Is that really possible or is it too good to be true?

Their name is durable snap. They are manufactured in either a line 20 or a line 24. I made a tool for the line 20 snap. I did not like the line 24 tool. These snaps have a nasty habit of not locking when you use the standard setting tool. The tool is supposed to roll the snap post down and lock it to the other half of the snap. I took the tool and stuck it in a drill press and filed the outer edge off, this forms the roll over. It now rolls the snap post down and flattens it against the other half of the snap. They don't come off.

[lazybum]

Their name is durable snap. They are manufactured in either a line 20 or a line 24. I made a tool for the line 20 snap. I did not like the line 24 tool. These snaps have a nasty habit of not locking when you use the standard setting tool. The tool is supposed to roll the snap post down and lock it to the other half of the snap. I took the tool and stuck it in a drill press and filed the outer edge off, this forms the roll over. It now rolls the snap post down and flattens it against the other half of the snap. They don't come off.

I see. So there is no difference between durable dot and baby dot snaps besides their manufacturers?

Will buying a dedicated line 20 setter and line 24 setter for the respective snaps be better?

[Art]

No.

Ligne 24 are also known as Durable Dot Snaps

Ligne 20 are often called Baby Dot Snaps

Ligne 16 are called Segma Snaps

Then there are wire snaps which are called Glove snaps

There are a bunch of others especially in the canvas trade.

Art

I see. So there is no difference between durable dot and baby dot snaps besides their manufacturers?

Will buying a dedicated line 20 setter and line 24 setter for the respective snaps be better?

[lazybum]

Alright thanks! I was getting confused by all the naming.

[jasonsmith]

No.

Ligne 24 are also known as Durable Dot Snaps

Ligne 20 are often called Baby Dot Snaps

Ligne 16 are called Segma Snaps

Then there are wire snaps which are called Glove snaps

There are a bunch of others especially in the canvas trade.

Art

What's the difference between all of those?

I've got 5/6 ounce leather half shoulder from Tandys I plan on making armbands with that will snap together.

[Art]

Hi Jason,

Ligne 24 and 20 are the standard snaps, they are different in diameter. Ligne 20 snaps usually have a 3/16 post and are for 5oz to 7oz leather. Ligne 24 are bigger and usually have a 5/16 post and are for 8oz to 10oz leather. Those are general guidelines, you may be able to put a 24 on 5/6oz by setting harder, you just have to try them.

Art

What's the difference between all of those?

I've got 5/6 ounce leather half shoulder from Tandys I plan on making armbands with that will snap together.

[jasonsmith]

Hi Jason,

Ligne 24 and 20 are the standard snaps, they are different in diameter. Ligne 20 snaps usually have a 3/16 post and are for 5oz to 7oz leather. Ligne 24 are bigger and usually have a 5/16 post and are for 8oz to 10oz leather. Those are general guidelines, you may be able to put a 24 on 5/6oz by setting harder, you just have to try them.

Art

Thanks. I'll look into the Line 20.

Do you have any info on the Line 16 and Glove snaps with regards to 5/6 ounce leather armbands?

I've been looking around, but can't find much info on these with regards to application. But sounds like the Line 20 should work at least.

I'd like to get nickel plated brass. I've got some spots that are nickel plated steel, and some that are nickel plasted brass. And the steel will rust. I'll have to check to see if the Tandy's are nickel plated brass or steel.

[Art]

The Ligne 16 Segma Snaps are a little different, a male stud on top goes into a hole, sorry it is the only way to put it. They don't hold as well as the Ligne 20 and 24.

Art

Thanks. I'll look into the Line 20.

Do you have any info on the Line 16 and Glove snaps with regards to 5/6 ounce leather armbands?

I've been looking around, but can't find much info on these with regards to application. But sounds like the Line 20 should work at least.

I'd like to get nickel plated brass. I've got some spots that are nickel plated steel, and some that are nickel plasted brass. And the steel will rust. I'll have to check to see if the Tandy's are nickel plated brass or steel.

[jasonsmith]

The Ligne 16 Segma Snaps are a little different, a male stud on top goes into a hole, sorry it is the only way to put it. They don't hold as well as the Ligne 20 and 24.

Art

Thanks. Looks like I'll probably go with the 20 then since I have 5/6 ounce leather. I'm guessing those glove snaps aren't any good compared to the line 20?