shaggs Report post Posted April 5, 2011 I purchased a used Adler 205 Stitching machine, but it is so fast, I asked what to do from the seller, he said I just need to get used to the pedal, but it is either stopped or in high speed. Is there a way to slow it down? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leathercrafter Report post Posted April 5, 2011 I purchased a used Adler 205 Stitching machine, but it is so fast, I asked what to do from the seller, he said I just need to get used to the pedal, but it is either stopped or in high speed. Is there a way to slow it down? hello yes there is does your 205 have a speed reducer on it that is a bracket mounted under the machine where the belt on the motor run to a bigger pulley and the belt on the head of machine hooks on a smaller pulley . you can also use a 1 3/4 pulley on your machine motor also i just purchased a new motor from weaver that has a dial on it to run as slow or as fast as you want it is great!!!! i also have a 205-64 alder. they also sell the speed reducers hope this helps john Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leathercrafter Report post Posted April 5, 2011 I purchased a used Adler 205 Stitching machine, but it is so fast, I asked what to do from the seller, he said I just need to get used to the pedal, but it is either stopped or in high speed. Is there a way to slow it down? also i forgot to tell you that the new motor cost 99.50 which is the best price around most people get 145.00 to 150.00 john Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jimbob Report post Posted April 5, 2011 Hello there... You can do several things...get used to the pedal....work the clutch.....that takes some training, but after a while u get the hang of it and get slower....Or you can get a speed reducer, a bracket with different size pulleys to reduce motor speed, as last post mentioned.....then there is a much smaller pulley on the clutch motor itself....that helps some....just reduce the pulley to the smallest possible. The cream of the cream is a DC servo motor......that baby slows it down BIG time....mounts easy just as your old motor.....there are differnt ones out there....watch the available watts and see if you want build in set of gears to really reduce speed and gain stitching power....that's what I have, a DC servo motor on my Adler 105-64...works like a dream!!!! I can start a stitch cycle....go and make me a sandwitch and be back before the cycle is finished You can go from extreme slow to race the beast.....especially as a beginner which meself it still is, haha.... Call different people and also call Bob Kovar from Toledo sewing machines in OH....that's where I got mine from, you love that one!!! Need pics and info from that motor,,,,give me a shout.. Greetings James Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wizcrafts Report post Posted April 5, 2011 I second what JimBob told you about the SewPro motor. I bought mine from Toledo Industrial Sewing Machines and it is a God send. I used to hand wheel around belt and strap tips, with my well adjusted clutch motor. Now, I use the servo motor to sew at 1 stitch every other second, guiding the work with two hands. BTW: The SewPro 500GR from Bob Kovar has a 2 inch pulley. This really slows down the maximum speed, while multiplying the torque. My hot-rodded walking foot machine is now capable of sewing 1/2 inch of leather, at slow controllable speeds, without slippage, thanks to that little servo motor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shaggs Report post Posted April 5, 2011 I apologize for not knowing much about the different motors, the servo motor, is this a motor that completly replaces the current motor, or is it an extension added to the current motor?quote name='Wizcrafts' timestamp='1301978332' post='194153'] I second what JimBob told you about the SewPro motor. I bought mine from Toledo Industrial Sewing Machines and it is a God send. I used to hand wheel around belt and strap tips, with my well adjusted clutch motor. Now, I use the servo motor to sew at 1 stitch every other second, guiding the work with two hands. BTW: The SewPro 500GR from Bob Kovar has a 2 inch pulley. This really slows down the maximum speed, while multiplying the torque. My hot-rodded walking foot machine is now capable of sewing 1/2 inch of leather, at slow controllable speeds, without slippage, thanks to that little servo motor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wizcrafts Report post Posted April 5, 2011 I apologize for not knowing much about the different motors, the servo motor, is this a motor that completly replaces the current motor, or is it an extension added to the current motor? It replaces the existing motor and switch box, with its wiring. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shaggs Report post Posted April 5, 2011 Thanks much! You have been very helpful. It replaces the existing motor and switch box, with its wiring. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shaggs Report post Posted April 5, 2011 Hi again, Will a sew pro 500 GR be compatible for my machine? The numbers are 205-374. I would like to purchase one if it will work, also how do I measure for the right belt? It replaces the existing motor and switch box, with its wiring. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wizcrafts Report post Posted April 6, 2011 (edited) Hi again, Will a sew pro 500 GR be compatible for my machine? The numbers are 205-374. I would like to purchase one if it will work, also how do I measure for the right belt? Yes, it will work on that machine just fine. The 500GR has built-in 3:1 gear reduction. This makes it more powerful than it looks. It also limits the top speed of the motor to 1500 RPM. The SewPro 500GR mounts a little closer to the table than a clutch motor. You will lose one inch of belt length, if the motor feeds the machine directly, without a speed reducer. If there is a reducer in the system the belt change may be negligible and easily compensated for via the motor adjuster bolt. If it is feeding all the way up to the flywheel on the machine, buy a 1" shorter belt. If the pulley on the original motor is larger than 2 inches, subtract another inch for each inch that the SewPro is smaller. In my case, I replaced a clutch motor that had a 2.5" pulley with the SewPro motor and a 2" shorter belt. This positioned the motor a a favorable angle for the pedal rods to pull smoothly. Doh! I almost forgot the last question you asked! The existing belt will have a number after a letter. The letter probably is M. The number indicates the length of the belt, at the inside of the tapered belt's circumference. For instance, if the original says it is an M44, and the original motor has a 2" pulley, you would then order an M43 belt with the motor. If the original pulley is 2.5 or 3 inches, you would order an M42 belt (assuming a 44" to start with). The threaded adjuster allows for about 1.5 inches adjustment, up or down from the center point. But, the good operating angle occupies a range of about one inch, from the center down. Each pedal setup may differ from others and your floor pedal may allow a full range of adjustment, up or down, without binding. Mine didn't. Edited April 6, 2011 by Wizcrafts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shaggs Report post Posted April 6, 2011 Yes, it will work on that machine just fine. The 500GR has built-in 3:1 gear reduction. This makes it more powerful than it looks. It also limits the top speed of the motor to 1500 RPM. The SewPro 500GR mounts a little closer to the table than a clutch motor. You will lose one inch of belt length, if the motor feeds the machine directly, without a speed reducer. If there is a reducer in the system the belt change may be negligible and easily compensated for via the motor adjuster bolt. If it is feeding all the way up to the flywheel on the machine, buy a 1" shorter belt. If the pulley on the original motor is larger than 2 inches, subtract another inch for each inch that the SewPro is smaller. In my case, I replaced a clutch motor that had a 2.5" pulley with the SewPro motor and a 2" shorter belt. This positioned the motor a a favorable angle for the pedal rods to pull smoothly. Doh! I almost forgot the last question you asked! The existing belt will have a number after a letter. The letter probably is M. The number indicates the length of the belt, at the inside of the tapered belt's circumference. For instance, if the original says it is an M44, and the original motor has a 2" pulley, you would then order an M43 belt with the motor. If the original pulley is 2.5 or 3 inches, you would order an M42 belt (assuming a 44" to start with). The threaded adjuster allows for about 1.5 inches adjustment, up or down from the center point. But, the good operating angle occupies a range of about one inch, from the center down. Each pedal setup may differ from others and your floor pedal may allow a full range of adjustment, up or down, without binding. Mine didn't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shaggs Report post Posted April 6, 2011 Wow! You have been a great help and have answered so many questions for me,again I thank you for your knowledge and time. Time to go place my order...I feel much better about my machine now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wizcrafts Report post Posted April 6, 2011 Wow! You have been a great help and have answered so many questions for me,again I thank you for your knowledge and time. Time to go place my order...I feel much better about my machine now. I re-read the entire thread and see that a couple of us mentioned where to get the SewPro 500GR motor, but nobody gave you the phone number. Toledo Industrial Sewing Machines: 866-362-7397. Tell them you heard about the motor here. Be sure you ask for the 2" pulley and remember what I said about getting a shorter v-belt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shaggs Report post Posted April 6, 2011 Will Do!! Thanks! I will let you know how it all goes. I re-read the entire thread and see that a couple of us mentioned where to get the SewPro 500GR motor, but nobody gave you the phone number. Toledo Industrial Sewing Machines: 866-362-7397. Tell them you heard about the motor here. Be sure you ask for the 2" pulley and remember what I said about getting a shorter v-belt. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shaggs Report post Posted April 13, 2011 Just received my Sewpro motor and what a difference! Just the perfect speed and quiet...I love it! Thanks to all for your help! Will Do!! Thanks! I will let you know how it all goes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wizcrafts Report post Posted April 13, 2011 Just received my Sewpro motor and what a difference! Just the perfect speed and quiet...I love it! Thanks to all for your help! The SewPro 500GR only draws a single watt when not engaged. It draws 300 watts at full load. Mine has never even gotten hot to the touch. By contrast, the 1/2 horsepower motor it replaced drew about 550 watts and could warm my expando in idle. The motor makes no sound in idle and it's easy to forget it is switched on. Remember to switch it off when it's not in use. You wouldn't want your kid or pet to accidentally push on the floor pedal and start the machine running. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
