Adler 120 Or Adler 205-370 ?

[adler205]

I have just joined today, what a great forum.

I need advise on sewing machines. I need to know which machine is more suitable for very thick leather stitching, up to 20-21mm thick, an Adler 205-370 with an Efka DC 1550 and a speed reducer or an Adler 120 with an Efka DC 1550 and a speed reducer.

Thanks everyone

[CowboyBob]

The best way to find out is to take your leather your going to use ( some types of leather sew different than others)& try it on the 205 first,it's the better one for leather,it will be sewing at it's max so you might even have to lube the thread to help it sew.

Bob

[adler205]

The best way to find out is to take your leather your going to use ( some types of leather sew different than others)& try it on the 205 first,it's the better one for leather,it will be sewing at it's max so you might even have to lube the thread to help it sew.

Bob

Thanks Bob, it looks like the heavier duty machine would be the Adler 120, do you know anyone who has one for sale ?

thank you

[Techsew Ron]

Thanks Bob, it looks like the heavier duty machine would be the Adler 120, do you know anyone who has one for sale ?

thank you

The Adler 120 is definitely the heavier duty machine.

Not an easy find though, I'd scour the internet to see if anyone is selling a used one. There are also a few dealers who sell a similar machine under different brands, see the ads at the top of the page.

Edited May 17, 2011 by Ronnie

[seweng]

I have just joined today, what a great forum.

I need advise on sewing machines. I need to know which machine is more suitable for very thick leather stitching, up to 20-21mm thick, an Adler 205-370 with an Efka DC 1550 and a speed reducer or an Adler 120 with an Efka DC 1550 and a speed reducer.

Thanks everyone

The Adler 205 has a maximum foot lift of 20mm and it's unlikely it would be able to stitch 20mm of leather with-out significant problems.

Modern equivalent of the class 20 is Highlead GA1398-1 and similar models are used when stitching very thick webbing etc. They can not be used on thinner work, so are not for general purpose use.

[adler205]

I have a sample of leather Weaver company sent me, it was done on the Adler 205-370 machine using the harness foot, it measures 21mm thick and they told me I'll have no problems doing 20mm. You see where I'm coming from now ? I hear all kinds of things about the Adler 205-370, some say it can do 20mm all day and some say you will have problems.

I guess I have to buy one, use it untill it brakes, fix it then use it untill it brakes again and keep going.

The Adler 205 has a maximum foot lift of 20mm and it's unlikely it would be able to stitch 20mm of leather with-out significant problems.

Modern equivalent of the class 20 is Highlead GA1398-1 and similar models are used when stitching very thick webbing etc. They can not be used on thinner work, so are not for general purpose use.

[seweng]

Hi been away for awhile and noticed your comments on the 205-370.

The 205-370 is a good machine, but if you are going to get one for the purposes of sewing 20-21mm thickness of leather, then its possible you will waste your money.

It will not handle that thickness of leather consistently. Your comment about "using it until it breaks" will probably happen very quickly.

If somebody has told you it will sew 20-21mm leather, then go and see it working before spending any money.

[adler205]

I bought an Adler 205-370 machine from Andreas Kern at SIECK in Germany, firstly the machine came to me as NOT completely working with a part missing, timing out, there were other problems with the machine as well, although I started a thread on here to warn people buying from this dealer the Moderators took the thread off.

To cut a long story short, it does not do the job..

Hi been away for awhile and noticed your comments on the 205-370.

The 205-370 is a good machine, but if you are going to get one for the purposes of sewing 20-21mm thickness of leather, then its possible you will waste your money.

It will not handle that thickness of leather consistently. Your comment about "using it until it breaks" will probably happen very quickly.

If somebody has told you it will sew 20-21mm leather, then go and see it working before spending any money.

Edited September 10, 2011 by adler205

[seweng]

Sorry your machine will not do your job.

But to be fair to your supplier, it’s probably not their fault if you purchased the wrong machine for the job.

Also take into consideration that during your research you were advised here that you would have significant problems trying to sew 20mm of leather on this model.

[adler205]

This machine does not sew 14mm thick and you are still talking about 20mm.

I was advised by who, by you ? I have a sample of 20mm thick leather done on an Adler 205-370 machine, it was sent to me by Weaver Leather. The machine can do it if it is set up correctly which is the way the machine was supposed to be sent to me but instead the machine was never tested properly by Andreas Kern of SIECK and just put on a pallet and shipped out to me.

Sorry your machine will not do your job.

But to be fair to your supplier, it's probably not their fault if you purchased the wrong machine for the job.

Also take into consideration that during your research you were advised here that you would have significant problems trying to sew 20mm of leather on this model.

Edited September 13, 2011 by adler205