Cowboy Cb227 Vs Techsew 2700

[srminimo]

Hello Leatherworkers

I've been looking around here for a while but this is my first post.

I'm in the process of choosing my first decent sewing machine and have basically narrowed it down to the Cowboy CB227 and the Techsew 2700 (I have discarded the option of a used machine, as the prices are around the same, and my other option was the Tippmann Boss, but it seems the price is basically the same compared to these machines and it seems it's not as solid a choice for lighter/medium weight stuff).

I wonder if you can give me some advice.

I will use the machine mostly for bike bags and briefcases/satchels, but will also work on wallets and smaller leather goods. Mostly leather, but also some Waxed canvas.

The heaviest I will ever sew (so far) is about 3 layers 5/6 oz - some piping on three layers of 3/4 oz stuff. The lightest ever would be lining, but usually on the medium side of canvas.

Also, it seems to me the Cowboy could be a Consew 227 clone and the Techsew a Pfaff 335 clone (I have actually used both at FIT here in NY). Is this true?

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Flavio

[Wizcrafts]

I haven't seen the Techsew 2700, except in videos, so you'll have to wait for Ronnie to answer your question about this excellent machine. However, I have seen the Cowboy 227 and can tell you that it easily sews 3/8 inch of leather, with #138 thread, top and bottom. It will also sew thin leather, with #69 thread. The 227 takes standard industrial walking feet and folder attachments. These are medium duty sewing machines, with 10 1/2 inch long cylinder arms. They are usually mounted onto pedestal half-tables, with bobbin winders, thread stands and flex lamps mounted on top. The Cowboy takes series 135,15/16 needles, but can also use system 190 needles, which are longer and require raising the needle bar. This allows the machine to sew to about 1/2 inch (but still with #138 thread).

I am fairly confident that both of these machines will sew the work you described.

[srminimo]

I haven't seen the Techsew 2700, except in videos, so you'll have to wait for Ronnie to answer your question about this excellent machine. However, I have seen the Cowboy 227 and can tell you that it easily sews 3/8 inch of leather, with #138 thread, top and bottom. It will also sew thin leather, with #69 thread. The 227 takes standard industrial walking feet and folder attachments. These are medium duty sewing machines, with 10 1/2 inch long cylinder arms. They are usually mounted onto pedestal half-tables, with bobbin winders, thread stands and flex lamps mounted on top. The Cowboy takes series 135,15/16 needles, but can also use system 190 needles, which are longer and require raising the needle bar. This allows the machine to sew to about 1/2 inch (but still with #138 thread).

I am fairly confident that both of these machines will sew the work you described.

Thank you very much for your reply and your help. I have to say, even though this is my first post on this matter, you have already helped me out a lot in the past with all the knowledge you pour into this forum, so a double nod of appreciation for always taking the time to share knowledge and advice.

kind regards

flavio

[Techsew Ron]

Wiz is right, both machines will do the work that you describe. We have lots of customers who use the Techsew 2700 for leather bike bags, satchels, purses, handbags, wallets etc...

If you've used a Consew 227 and Pfaff 335 then you'll be comfortable with this machine. Also it includes the SmartServo motor so you can easily control your stitching speed and still have lots of torque for thicker leather.

Feel free to call us anytime if you have any other questions.

[srminimo]

Wiz is right, both machines will do the work that you describe. We have lots of customers who use the Techsew 2700 for leather bike bags, satchels, purses, handbags, wallets etc...

If you've used a Consew 227 and Pfaff 335 then you'll be comfortable with this machine. Also it includes the SmartServo motor so you can easily control your stitching speed and still have lots of torque for thicker leather.

Feel free to call us anytime if you have any other questions.

Thank you Ronnie

I definitely will in a couple of days.

thanks

flavio

[vvickyvv]

i know this is a bit of an old thread but i am looking of a cylinder machine and based on some research and forum posts i was debating about Techsew machine and about which model to get. So is the dilemma:

1. I am looking for a quality machine ( let say Bernina is quality) that would last forever. Is Techsew known for good quality? Will the machine last forever?

2. I am looking to do bags, wallets, maybe belts. Is it better to get a light/medium machine such as 2700 or is it better to get 5700? I know i cant get one machine to do all, but i would rather cover all three options ( light/medium and heavy)

Thanks!

[Pounder]

For my two cents, I have the CB 227 and am satisfied with it. Basically they are the same machines just different providers so the choice is yours.

[Techsew Ron]

i know this is a bit of an old thread but i am looking of a cylinder machine and based on some research and forum posts i was debating about Techsew machine and about which model to get. So is the dilemma:

1. I am looking for a quality machine ( let say Bernina is quality) that would last forever. Is Techsew known for good quality? Will the machine last forever?

2. I am looking to do bags, wallets, maybe belts. Is it better to get a light/medium machine such as 2700 or is it better to get 5700? I know i cant get one machine to do all, but i would rather cover all three options ( light/medium and heavy)

Thanks!

Hi vvickyvv, how thick are you planning on sewing? The Techsew 2700 can handle up to about 3/8" thick, if you're just sewing belts, wallets and handbags you should be ok.

If you want to leave your options open in case you ever plan on sewing thicker leather, you should consider the Techsew 4100 or 5100 which are more all-in-one machines.

Let us know if you have any other questions!

Ron

[Darren Brosowski]

This is an odd question.

In the business environment companies buy cars and equipment (usually leased) and expect them to last a maximum of 5 years before they trade and get new equipment so why do we expect sewing machines to last forever? Any well built machine will last for decades and I am talking about pretty much any current production, cast iron machine.

Most machines I see do not get cleaned and oiled as often as they should be but they keep running.

In the unlikely event a machine constantly plays up any dealer worth their salt will either make it work or replace it. Warranty is a statutory obligation but most honest sellers are ore concerned about the moral obligation of having happy customers.

Everything I have seen here - and elsewhere - suggests that dealers like Bob, Ronnie and Steve are more concerned with happy customers than meeting pure legal obligations. These guys have even helped out people who buy machines online from others where they have no obligation to help.That is the mark of people who really care.

i know this is a bit of an old thread but i am looking of a cylinder machine and based on some research and forum posts i was debating about Techsew machine and about which model to get. So is the dilemma:

1. I am looking for a quality machine ( let say Bernina is quality) that would last forever. Is Techsew known for good quality? Will the machine last forever?

2. I am looking to do bags, wallets, maybe belts. Is it better to get a light/medium machine such as 2700 or is it better to get 5700? I know i cant get one machine to do all, but i would rather cover all three options ( light/medium and heavy)

Thanks!