Members Sarah C Posted June 22, 2011 Author Members Report Posted June 22, 2011 Wristbands were what led me to try segmas again too. They are just way too much frustration for me. I've tried several different ways of setting them - in fact I think there's a really good free video on it on Tandy's site, but I'm just not gettin' it. Out of curiosity, did you use black or silver snaps? I bought two packs of each color, and look what I found! The SILVER snaps snap like a charm!! The BLACK snap caps don't have as much ummm whatever that word is... curl? prickly things sticking out?, so the caps don't grab onto the socket properly! The black ones look as if someone already curled the prongs over. PRONGS! That's the word... anyway... You can really see the difference!!! Look: Quote Mister Mostaccio's Mustache Wax Shop www.mistermostaccio.etsy.com
Members Spinner Posted June 22, 2011 Members Report Posted June 22, 2011 (edited) Yep, I found the same thing...the silver work much better than the black but overall out of the two types, I have better luck not only setting but with longevity of the Glove snaps than I do/did with the Sigmas. Edited June 22, 2011 by Spinner Quote Chris Three Mutts Customs Leather - http://www.threemuttscustoms.com
Members Sarah C Posted June 22, 2011 Author Members Report Posted June 22, 2011 (edited) Yep, I found the same thing...the silver work much better than the black but overall out of the two types, I have better luck not only setting but with longevity of the Glove snaps than I do/did with the Sigmas. I emailed Tandy about the problem and they said I should have never received the black ones that I did. They were being returned to the manufacturer already, and I'm getting free replacements. The silver ones seem to have held up so far. I banged a few with the mallet just to check (the black ones all fell off when I initiated the first snap with the mallet) and they seem fairly solid. I suppose only time will tell!! Can you use glove snaps on thicker leather? I only use 6oz and up for my cuffs. Thanks! Edited June 22, 2011 by Sarah C Quote Mister Mostaccio's Mustache Wax Shop www.mistermostaccio.etsy.com
Moderator Art Posted June 22, 2011 Moderator Report Posted June 22, 2011 Sarah, If the snap will stand up to the work, plastic should be ok. From the artistic standpoint, if you are creating a "manly" type of product, you might not want to put pink plastic snaps on it. As far as cost goes, a cheap harbor freight arbor press can be turned into a snap press using Tandy setters, just drill a hole in the ram to fit the setter part of the set and the anvil goes underneath, bingo, good working press. Drill and tap the ram for a set screw with a hand knob on it and you're in business. Art Art- Have you used the plastic snaps on any leather goods? That's probably super unconventional but they're a lot cheaper than the press needed for the metal snaps. I'm sure they'll work just fine, I just want to know if it would be like... okay... or if I'd be breaking some sort of unknown rule handed down by the leather gods. Thanks!!! Quote For heaven's sakes pilgrim, make yourself a strop!
Members Sarah C Posted June 22, 2011 Author Members Report Posted June 22, 2011 Sarah, If the snap will stand up to the work, plastic should be ok. From the artistic standpoint, if you are creating a "manly" type of product, you might not want to put pink plastic snaps on it. As far as cost goes, a cheap harbor freight arbor press can be turned into a snap press using Tandy setters, just drill a hole in the ram to fit the setter part of the set and the anvil goes underneath, bingo, good working press. Drill and tap the ram for a set screw with a hand knob on it and you're in business. Art OOO! Thanks! Dad just LOVES it when I think in his shop, lol. Thanks!! And worry not, I despise pink. Quote Mister Mostaccio's Mustache Wax Shop www.mistermostaccio.etsy.com
Ladykahu Posted June 22, 2011 Report Posted June 22, 2011 I have used a couple of plastic snaps on a pouch I made myself, mostly because I wanted navy blue and I already had the snaps from other projects. Its only been a couple of months but I use the pouch constantly at work (it holds my door swipe and keys, screwdriver etc) and so far the snaps are holding up just fine. I probably open and close the pouch at least a dozen times a day. I had used the same snaps on my grandson's cloth nappy's. they where used constantly for 3 years and chucked through the washing machine daily and are still fine. I got my plastic snaps from these guys, who have done loads of strength testing http://www.greenbean...5bcea3768a97de5 I have altered a beer bottle capper press to hold the die's and it works a treat. Natalie Quote Insanity is hereditory, you get it from your kids
Members Smashtoad Posted August 4, 2011 Members Report Posted August 4, 2011 Out of curiosity, did you use black or silver snaps? I bought two packs of each color, and look what I found! The SILVER snaps snap like a charm!! The BLACK snap caps don't have as much ummm whatever that word is... curl? prickly things sticking out?, so the caps don't grab onto the socket properly! The black ones look as if someone already curled the prongs over. PRONGS! That's the word... anyway... You can really see the difference!!! Look: Well...that is interesting, isn't it? I am one half inch from giving up on segmas forever. My local Tandy lady tells me my leather is too thick (6 to 8oz). I am beginning to wonder if that is a company way to say the design of the black segmas is less than horrible. I mean...look at it. It doesn't look ready to grab anything. And the post? Where or how is it supposed to collapse into a securing fashion? I think the bottom line is that black segma snaps are good looking, VERY poorly designed snaps. Quote
Members Sarah C Posted August 4, 2011 Author Members Report Posted August 4, 2011 Well...that is interesting, isn't it? I am one half inch from giving up on segmas forever. My local Tandy lady tells me my leather is too thick (6 to 8oz). I am beginning to wonder if that is a company way to say the design of the black segmas is less than horrible. I mean...look at it. It doesn't look ready to grab anything. And the post? Where or how is it supposed to collapse into a securing fashion? I think the bottom line is that black segma snaps are good looking, VERY poorly designed snaps. I actually got a replacement from tandy when I emailed customer service. They have redesigned the black ones- they look like the silver ones now, and work just fine! Quote Mister Mostaccio's Mustache Wax Shop www.mistermostaccio.etsy.com
Members Smashtoad Posted August 4, 2011 Members Report Posted August 4, 2011 I actually got a replacement from tandy when I emailed customer service. They have redesigned the black ones- they look like the silver ones now, and work just fine! No way...that is awesome! I love the way these things look, but daiiiing...I hated them. Thanks Quote
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