Adler Sewing Machine Model Number ?

[jack523]

I have found an old Adler machine with allot of clean up to do. The old man isgoing to clean it up; he said the model number is a Alder 2020.

Ihave looked at it and could not find a model number on it. It has 19" to20" from the back of the throat to needle and 8" of clearance. I did some looking at machine like it and its called a LONG Arm very heavy machine.

Ithas a chain pulley set-up with clutch motor. I would like some one to help me find some more info on this machine or tell me where to look the model number on this beast. The head is very heavy may weigh 200 Lbs.

Whatthe price of a machine like this my cost? He wants $2000 for it.

I want to start doing some heavy stitching work on leather. I think the this will make a good machine just needs allot clean up rusted in a few spots and missing a bobbin winder part. The old man said he will find the part.

Please help me gather info. I would appreciate it. Garry

Edited July 14, 2011 by jack523

[wolfe9]

It would be a good idea to post a pic so people have a better idea what it is that they are trying to help you with , all to often the model number someone tells you is wrong .

Good luck

[Trox]

Hi,

It is either a old Adler class 20-20 or a Adler class 220 50- 72 0r 50-272 ( 20 inch on or two needle long arm) with high lift. If its old 20-20, 2000 USD is way to much to pay regardless of state. But if its a class 220 high lift long arm it will bee worth some dollars. The last machine is mostly used for sail, awnings and tents. The class 20-20 is also for the same kind of work. But this is only speculation we need a picture. This are not machines set up for leather work, but it will stich thick materials.

You better speak to Cobra Steve or some other dealer here on the forum or look in the used section. You can buy a new 9 inch Juki 441 clone from one of the dealer for that price, set up for leather work, stitching thicker and doing mutch better job. Speak to Cobra Steve or the Cowboy dealers, you will get the best of machines and service.

Trox

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I have found an old Adler machine with allot of clean up to do. The old man isgoing to clean it up; he said the model number is a Alder 2020.

Ihave looked at it and could not find a model number on it. It has 19" to20" from the back of the throat to needle and 8" of clearance. I did some looking at machine like it and its called a LONG Arm very heavy machine.

Ithas a chain pulley set-up with clutch motor. I would like some one to help me find some more info on this machine or tell me where to look the model number on this beast. The head is very heavy may weigh 200 Lbs.

Whatthe price of a machine like this my cost? He wants $2000 for it.

I want to start doing some heavy stitching work on leather. I think the this will make a good machine just needs allot clean up rusted in a few spots and missing a bobbin winder part. The old man said he will find the part.

Please help me gather info. I would appreciate it. Garry

[Wizcrafts]

As Trox mentioned, just because the Adler you are thinking about buying weighs 200 pounds and has a 20 inch body clearance, doesn't mean that it will make a good leather sewing machine. I have seen those long body Adlers, with one inch clearance under the feet, and they look like tanks. Nonetheless, these machines were built and setup for sewing sails, awnings, buffing wheels and car wash drying cloths. The buffing wheels and car wash cloths are thick, but made of cloth. They require a specialized high lift machine to sew them, and that's what these Adler 20-somethings are built to do.

Adler does make leather sewing machines. They include the model 204 and 205 and various sub-classes. I know of one member of this forum who has an Adler 204-374 for sale at a very good price. It sews up to 3/4 inch of leather, with a #25 system 794 needle, using #277 bonded nylon thread. The take-up and tension parts and the bobbin system are all designed to handle heavy thread, sewn into thick leather.

If you intend to sew sails, tents, awnings or buffing wheels, the old Adler 20-20 might be the perfect machine for those jobs.

[jack523]

I will get some pics for you to look at friday evening you can give me some pointers. I am looking for something that will punch a 277 thread at least. I just don't want make the mistake and buy something that will not work. I appreciate the help. I do have a Juki DNU-241, a Phaff cylinder bed, and a Phaff 338 zig zag. Thanks for the help.

As Trox mentioned, just because the Adler you are thinking about buying weighs 200 pounds and has a 20 inch body clearance, doesn't mean that it will make a good leather sewing machine. I have seen those long body Adlers, with one inch clearance under the feet, and they look like tanks. Nonetheless, these machines were built and setup for sewing sails, awnings, buffing wheels and car wash drying cloths. The buffing wheels and car wash cloths are thick, but made of cloth. They require a specialized high lift machine to sew them, and that's what these Adler 20-somethings are built to do.

Adler does make leather sewing machines. They include the model 204 and 205 and various sub-classes. I know of one member of this forum who has an Adler 204-374 for sale at a very good price. It sews up to 3/4 inch of leather, with a #25 system 794 needle, using #277 bonded nylon thread. The take-up and tension parts and the bobbin system are all designed to handle heavy thread, sewn into thick leather.

If you intend to sew sails, tents, awnings or buffing wheels, the old Adler 20-20 might be the perfect machine for those jobs.

[jack523]

i think you may have changed my mind on that old machine i looked at the one did he buy it from you?

As Trox mentioned, just because the Adler you are thinking about buying weighs 200 pounds and has a 20 inch body clearance, doesn't mean that it will make a good leather sewing machine. I have seen those long body Adlers, with one inch clearance under the feet, and they look like tanks. Nonetheless, these machines were built and setup for sewing sails, awnings, buffing wheels and car wash drying cloths. The buffing wheels and car wash cloths are thick, but made of cloth. They require a specialized high lift machine to sew them, and that's what these Adler 20-somethings are built to do.

Adler does make leather sewing machines. They include the model 204 and 205 and various sub-classes. I know of one member of this forum who has an Adler 204-374 for sale at a very good price. It sews up to 3/4 inch of leather, with a #25 system 794 needle, using #277 bonded nylon thread. The take-up and tension parts and the bobbin system are all designed to handle heavy thread, sewn into thick leather.

If you intend to sew sails, tents, awnings or buffing wheels, the old Adler 20-20 might be the perfect machine for those jobs.

[Trox]

Hi Jack,

Here in Scandinavia we use a lot of those big Adlers Wizcraft mentioned and older models to. That because nobody sell those upgraded Chinese 441 clones.

A 9 inch machine from Cowboy or Cobra is in that price range, and it will take thread from 69 to 415. You can also buy an upgrade mega flywheel for about 110 USD, that will make the machine an unbeatable lock stitcher. Sewing up to 7/8 of an inch in leather.

They comes complete with everything, servo, speed reducer and different feet`s.

All major sewing machine brands are manufactured in China now anyway, and the quality is good. It is a easy choise for you who live in the states.

You already have the machines for light work; with a 441 clone, your workshop will be complete for every sewing task.

Trox

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i think you may have changed my mind on that old machine i looked at the one did he buy it from you?

[Trox]

But I will still like to se a picture, I collect old Adler machines

Trox

I will get some pics for you to look at friday evening you can give me some pointers. I am looking for something that will punch a 277 thread at least. I just don't want make the mistake and buy something that will not work. I appreciate the help. I do have a Juki DNU-241, a Phaff cylinder bed, and a Phaff 338 zig zag. Thanks for the help.

[jack523]

Sorry boys that deal did not go thru I was not willing to take the risk on that old machine. I know you "Sherlock Holmes" types out there would have liked to see those pics, it just was not worth the gas money to go back out on the other side of town and take the pics. Believe me i would have liked to know what it was myself. That old man had about six other machines just collecting dust.

Sometimes it feels like that little lost puppy, can't rescue them all. Thanks for your input.

But I will still like to se a picture, I collect old Adler machines

Trox

[Trox]

We are all here to help fellow leather workers; a picture is just a bonus. You did the right thing.

A few year ago those machine was worth a lot of dollars, but times are changing fast. I expect nobody to pay that much just to rescue a machine. I hope the old man will wake up soon and smell the coffee. Otherwise, the machines will die with him.

Trox

Sorry boys that deal did not go thru I was not willing to take the risk on that old machine. I know you "Sherlock Holmes" types out there would have liked to see those pics, it just was not worth the gas money to go back out on the other side of town and take the pics. Believe me i would have liked to know what it was myself. That old man had about six other machines just collecting dust.

Sometimes it feels like that little lost puppy, can't rescue them all. Thanks for your input.