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Big Sioux I am glad that I am not the only one that has had that happen, have you found any cure for it?  Every now and then I will sew some H O but not that often, I have been buying more of W & C leather, well I can rest easy now knowing it happens to someone else! 

Sony daze I run the thread through a oil pot now as it is, I would think that it would help maybe not cure the problem but at least help!

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On 6/12/2018 at 6:20 PM, OLDNSLOW said:

Big Sioux I am glad that I am not the only one that has had that happen, have you found any cure for it?  Every now and then I will sew some H O but not that often, I have been buying more of W & C leather, well I can rest easy now knowing it happens to someone else! 

Sony daze I run the thread through a oil pot now as it is, I would think that it would help maybe not cure the problem but at least help!

O & S, I have not really found a cure for the issue.  Leather that is the slightest bit cased up is even worse.  Some was so bad I didn't think I would get it stitched.  Lighter weights aren't so much an issue. . . they still squeak, but it doesn't interfere with the ability to get them sewn. . . but when I have maybe 3 layers of heavy skirting or their standard harness leather stacked, it can be a SOB.  Then I will keep a block of beeswax or even a can of dry silicone spray handy and apply to the needle every few inches.  Makes for slow going.  It's something that Wickett does to their leather, because I've noticed a lot more drag with a swivel knife when carving W & C vs HO. 

Somewhere through the years, Wickett must have made some changes to their leather.  Back in the mid '90's, their harness leather had a lot more wax, but still had a nice, supple hand.  Now their standard harness is very dry. . . beautiful finish, but very dry.  They have what they call a "show harness" selection, which I would never use for show harness, as it does have a lot of wax and oil, but is quite hard with a less than attractive finish for show harness.

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Ya I have had some holsters 2 layers 9oz that I thought I wasn't going to get done, and thinking something was wrong with my machine, needle, or thread, so I am truly glad to hear that I am not the only one that has this problem, but we must be the only 2 that have had this bad experience.  I might just have to go back to HO or find some other brand! .  Thanks for the input it really helps to narrow down the problem!

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2 hours ago, OLDNSLOW said:

Ya I have had some holsters 2 layers 9oz that I thought I wasn't going to get done, and thinking something was wrong with my machine, needle, or thread, so I am truly glad to hear that I am not the only one that has this problem, but we must be the only 2 that have had this bad experience.  I might just have to go back to HO or find some other brand! .  Thanks for the input it really helps to narrow down the problem!

Has anyone ever called the folks at W&C to ask about this issue?  Maybe they can provide some insight?

Gary

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I haven't used W&C bridle/harness leather is a long long time. I buy all my bridle leather from Thoroughbred Leather, in KY. I have never had a needle stick in their leather. Some of their backs are almost a quarter inch thick and they still sew easily with a #25 needle and #277 thread.

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Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.

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4 hours ago, OLDNSLOW said:

but we must be the only 2 that have had this bad experience. 

If you look back to the very first post in this thread, the OP was using W & C also.

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On 6/13/2018 at 5:21 PM, Wizcrafts said:

I haven't used W&C bridle/harness leather is a long long time. I buy all my bridle leather from Thoroughbred Leather, in KY. I have never had a needle stick in their leather. Some of their backs are almost a quarter inch thick and they still sew easily with a #25 needle and #277 thread.

Wiz - I looked at the Thoroughbred website but they do not list any pricing.  Is their pricing comparable to W&C and the other popular leather suppliers?  I see they have a location in Augusta, Ga - not too far from me.

Gary

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