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[GONG]

Tjena Trox

You have told me a lot of valuable information. Thanks! It´s big that you´re not pissed that we colonized you.

I ordered a Cobra 4 from Steve and his cowboy mates. I just couldn´t resist when I saw that picture. Can you get more cool?

But the machine seem nice and also improved. Thank´s for the tip!

The bags I sew are heavy duty. Thickest imaginable canvas and leaver. And thick webbing.

I make tool bags and bags for heavy equipement. Also if you want to look more manly you can have them.

If it gets to thin then I can use a Durkopp 239 that I bought on an add. It misses a couple of pieces but it really looks brand new.

Looking for an exploded view picture on it so the right parts can be ordered.

I bought an Eastman 134 cutter on a flea market yesterday but it´s so big.

Have you tried this? (picture)

Again Thanks a lot.

GONG

Edited February 4, 2012 by GONG

[Trox]

Tjenere Mattias,

Good choise, make sure you order a motor with ESP ( position). and 220v. Steve is the best Guy you can buy from. It is importent that the Dealer will support you, even when you live so far away as we do. Steve will Do just that, thats his "thing". Pls tell me what you have to pay for the shipping and the Swedish handling, when you know so. You can send me a PM or a mail. How long do you have to wait for the machine? Or did he have one in stock. I have never used a cutting machine like that, I work mostly with leather using my head knife. It's looks very modern and with out cord too, great deal. I will be with out ISP some days, because of changing to a new one. I am currently using my phone, it is a hustle. Send me a picture when you receive your new Cobra machine.

Good luck.

Thanks,

Trox

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Tjena Trox

You have told me a lot of valuable information. Thanks! It´s big that you´re not pissed that we colonized you.

I ordered a Cobra 4 from Steve and his cowboy mates. I just couldn´t resist when I saw that picture. Can you get more cool?

But the machine seem nice and also improved. Thank´s for the tip!

The bags I sew are heavy duty. Thickest imaginable canvas and leaver. And thick webbing.

I make tool bags and bags for heavy equipement. Also if you want to look more manly you can have them.

If it gets to thin then I can use a Durkopp 239 that I bought on an add. It misses a couple of pieces but it really looks brand new.

Looking for an exploded view picture on it so the right parts can be ordered.

I bought an Eastman 134 cutter on a flea market yesterday but it´s so big.

Have you tried this? (picture)

Again Thanks a lot.

GONG

[GONG]

Hi Trox

Hope you enjoy your new computer by now.

Steve and his men were out on some expo i Arizona but he send me a mail that they recieved the money and were gonna send the machine next week. I guess it will take a couple of weeks before it shows up. Really looking forward. You can for shure find worse people doing buisnis with. I am amazed that not more companies have that way of meeting up with customers. Yes the ESP is important I have understod and it has. Also solenoid presserfotlift and a lot of other things. I already have the motor but I can tell you I don´t understand anything yet. It´s a COMPUTER!. Have to invite a programmer friend, for dinner, I guess. Can´t even get it running.

The idea is to mount the motor on the back of the machine. Flatbelt with teeth for minimal wheel on the motor. Teeth for no slip, built in syncronizer in the motor. Maybe there has to be an external, I hope not.

http://www.imca.net/ho-hsing/products/i-70-series

Had been bothering IMCA (Global) so much that I felt like buying the motor from them. Also a very nice company. Actually you led me to them also. I just liked the Cobra head more.

I will send some pics. when Santa has been here.

All best

Tjenere Mattias,

Good choise, make sure you order a motor with ESP ( position). and 220v. Steve is the best Guy you can buy from. It is importent that the Dealer will support you, even when you live so far away as we do. Steve will Do just that, thats his "thing". Pls tell me what you have to pay for the shipping and the Swedish handling, when you know so. You can send me a PM or a mail. How long do you have to wait for the machine? Or did he have one in stock. I have never used a cutting machine like that, I work mostly with leather using my head knife. It's looks very modern and with out cord too, great deal. I will be with out ISP some days, because of changing to a new one. I am currently using my phone, it is a hustle. Send me a picture when you receive your new Cobra machine.

Good luck.

Thanks,

Trox

quote name='GONG' timestamp='1328394273' post='232789']

Tjena Trox

You have told me a lot of valuable information. Thanks! It´s big that you´re not pissed that we colonized you.

I ordered a Cobra 4 from Steve and his cowboy mates. I just couldn´t resist when I saw that picture. Can you get more cool?

But the machine seem nice and also improved. Thank´s for the tip!

The bags I sew are heavy duty. Thickest imaginable canvas and leaver. And thick webbing.

I make tool bags and bags for heavy equipement. Also if you want to look more manly you can have them.

If it gets to thin then I can use a Durkopp 239 that I bought on an add. It misses a couple of pieces but it really looks brand new.

Looking for an exploded view picture on it so the right parts can be ordered.

I bought an Eastman 134 cutter on a flea market yesterday but it´s so big.

Have you tried this? (picture)

Again Thanks a lot.

GONG

[Trox]

Tjena Mattias,

Not new computer but new Internet provider (the company that deliver my broadband Internet connection) But thanks anyway.

You ordered the machine already, but you bought the motor from Imca. Can you pls. tell me the price for the head with shipping? (Send it in a Personal message if you prefer) I am also considering buying a head only. But I have to sell some of the machines I already have to get more room, he he. Say hello to Steve from me if you talk to him, He is a great guy.

The motor you bought is the new Ac motor from Ho Sing; I was wondering when they start to use this system in the sewing industry. I have been using the same system for a while on the old three phase clutch motors I have. This is the system used in all other industry today.

It is a normal AC motor and a small computer controlling the currents frequency among other. All parameters can be set; you can connect a pot meter to adjust the speed and so on. Yours is the same but more advanced. I have some machines with three phase motors, both clutches a continuous drive motors. With only single-phase current in my workshop, I had to change the motors or the electrical system, the solution was the frequency converter (a small computer controlling the AC motor and changing the current, it is the same system). With this system, I can get a three-phase clutch motor to run as slow as I want. (The machine can be set to sew one stitch a day if I want). It works very well.

However, your system is a complete solution. Which mini motor did you buy? I do not know the system with an internal synchronizer, but the normal one is mounted on the machine hand wheel. It count’s rotations and do not loose any accuracy with belt slippage. The machine hand wheels have a V belt pulley, it is a big heavy wheel to add torque and speed reduction. How do you plan to attach it to a flat-toothed belt? To do that you need a new hand wheel. Cowboy sells a bigger wheel upgrade, but it is still a V belt. The pulley on the motor must be as small as possible (50 mm or less) and the machine pulley as big as possible. The 750W AC motor would do the job, if not add a speed reducer.

Look at the big monster Adler 120 (built on license from DA of http://www.sl-spezial.de/sl/index.php/company.html ) It has a mini servo (Efka 1550 with a planet gear for extra torque) mounted on the back. If you are not sure about the strength of the motor, you can ask Steve about what he thinks; and ask him to send with a speed reducer just in case. (It depends of the AC motor you bought) Or you can ask Gregg from Keystone sewing, he sells the ho sing, many other motors and all kinds of sewing machines ( he is a member here)

You were right buying a Cobra; I have heard that Global is just a machine branding. The quality can be changing. However, Ho Sing is a pro motor. In addition, you bought a presser foot lift solenoid; it will be a great machine. You must post some pictures of it here. The Ho sing pimped boat Cobra. I cannot wait to see it. Good luck.

Trox

Hi Trox

Hope you enjoy your new computer by now.

Steve and his men were out on some expo i Arizona....

[Wizcrafts]

How about using bicycle sprockets and a chain to drive the machine from the small motor?

[Trox]

Hi Wiz

It might work, but I do not understand why he cannot use a V belt like the rest of us. There is nothing special about it, only that he should use it in a boat and mount the motor on the back to save space. He will not sew very thick, handbags and such. A V-belt, the right size and profile type will work just fine.

Trox

How about using bicycle sprockets and a chain to drive the machine from the small motor?

[GONG]

Hi W

Maybe that could work. One thing is that it coould create mechanical noise.

Thanks

Mattias

How about using bicycle sprockets and a chain to drive the machine from the small motor?

[GONG]

If there´s gonna be a external synchronizer and that little italian speed reducer, that Trox showed this morning, I will use the v-belt. I really wonder were I can get that piece. If it´s needed.. The motor, 750W seem to have very high torque on low r.p.m.

At the moment the issue is to bring life in the motor. It´s so new that I can´t find any discussions about it. And the literature is written in a language (english) for sewing machine enginers.

And Trox.. The Shipping/handling from California-Sweden was 300$. I will get back with pictures, and info. about what the customs comes up with. But that should be 35% in VAT/toll if i´m unlucky.

If you want to try and have your paths by you are welcome.

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Hi Wiz

It might work, but I do not understand why he cannot use a V belt like the rest of us. There is nothing special about it, only that he should use it in a boat and mount the motor on the back to save space. He will not sew very thick, handbags and such. A V-belt, the right size and profile type will work just fine.

Trox

[Trox]

Remember when I was a young man I had a very strong Yamaha 350cc motorbike. It was a two-stroke engine; I had to feed it with chains and sprockets. I had to drive over the border to Sweden to buy them, it was too expensive here. Every week it wanted a new drive packet. After that time, I am allergic to sprockets.

Hi W

Maybe that could work. One thing is that it coould create mechanical noise.

Thanks

Mattias

[Trox]

Thanks Mattias,

But the synchronizer should be together with the motor, it is normally included in the motor package. If you do not see it (like on my Efka) it is an internal one. This new modern motor system surely calculates the belt slippage and everything. I know that the Efka counterpart, the 1550 is strong enough to propel a 441 or a 205-370 with out any speed reducer. Even on the biggest tasks. I see no reason that the Ho Sing 1 hp AC motor will not. No worries, it will be strong and slow enough. If you have the data sheet on it, send it over and I will have a look at it later. I have some experience with similar applications, and know the terms and language. You must have the motor on the top of the table because of the boats hull shape, am I correct? You must remember to mount the motor in a way that you will be able to adjust the belt tension (without a speed reducer that is no problem. With one is difficult, because you have to place the reducer in a way that makes it possible to tension both belt) you must have a place for the thread rack too. It will need a thread rack that pulls thread of the top of the thread spool (the machine want sew proper without it). In addition, you will need a belt cover to avoid thread (or anything else) in your motor, that is now in an exposed position. This is the tings you should have in mind when you building the machine stand. It might be other concerns too, it is best to study the motor instructions well before you start. (I can help you with that; I can also give you my skype number if needed) Those Instructions can be frightening, building up a machine can be very time consuming even for a trained sewing machine engineer. The Shipping price was not too bad; do you have as much as 35 % VAT? Here it is 25 %. Thanks for the invitation, if I am in Sweden I let you know. I hope this will help a bit. Send me the data sheet and I have a look.

Trox

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