Members Abram Posted February 3, 2012 Members Report Posted February 3, 2012 Not really a new design as I am sure someone thought of it somewhere. I would like to get your opinions on the concept. Thank you Quote
Members dickf Posted February 3, 2012 Members Report Posted February 3, 2012 High ride with an extreme forward cant. The weight of the gun is above the belt, and there's no meat left underneath to counter the roll you're going to get. IMO, you won't be happy with how it rides, and even with a gun belt, the holster is going to want to roll away from your body. The rear slot is also too far away from the gun, so even if it doesn't roll, the butt will tip out. This is all even more prominent the further back toward 5:00 you wear this holster, which is required to draw the gun with the amount of muzzle rake you have going on there. Finally, the leather at the muzzle will pucker once you insert the gun, which might expose it. It's a good start, but I think if you're looking for a high-ride extreme cant holster, you need to lower it, and give the holster some more meat under the belt to counter the roll. Quote US GUNLEATHER www.usgunleather.com twitter.com/usgunleather facebook.com/USGUNLEATHER
Members Abram Posted February 3, 2012 Author Members Report Posted February 3, 2012 dickf, Thank you for the suggestions and critique. I have tweaked the design. The gun rides lower and I have brought the belt loops in a bit. Quote
Members gicts Posted February 3, 2012 Members Report Posted February 3, 2012 How would the belt slots work? With a thick gun belt I can imagine a few problems Quote
Members Abram Posted February 3, 2012 Author Members Report Posted February 3, 2012 How would the belt slots work? With a thick gun belt I can imagine a few problems I don't understand, could you please elaborate? Quote
electrathon Posted February 3, 2012 Report Posted February 3, 2012 I would add a sweat shield and straighten out the belt slots. They may look cooler slanted, but will hold the gun firmer if they are 90 degrees to the belt. Aaron Quote
Members Shooter McGavin Posted February 3, 2012 Members Report Posted February 3, 2012 I would think that a slanted slot gives more surface area which would be more secure? Quote Zlogonje Gunleathers
Members DoubleBarP Posted February 4, 2012 Members Report Posted February 4, 2012 (edited) Let me preface this with I am not a designer. I do however have over 3 decades of experience of daily carry. So I have some insight into what works and what doesn't. (And several "boxes" of holsters to prove it) My observations as an end user: Holster Cant - too much unless you are going for a middle of the back concealment (not recommended due to potential spinal injury and other "printing" issues that may arise. For a person with flexibility issues such as elbow or shoulderit would make draw somewhat difficult. Gun positioned too far above the belt line will cause gun to"flop" away from body just moving and as the belt streaches. Recommend lowering gun grip to just above beltline (can get a shooting grip while still in the holster). This may require somewhere in 10-12 degree of an angle which should lower more of the gun below the belt thus giving it more stability. Belt loops at 90 degrees to belt. Not really a new design as I am sure someone thought of it somewhere. I would like to get your opinions on the concept. Thank you Edited February 4, 2012 by DoubleBarP Quote
Contributing Member TwinOaks Posted February 4, 2012 Contributing Member Report Posted February 4, 2012 The front slot also needs to be brought in closer to the weapon, which gives the weight of the gun more support from the belt and less mechanical advantage in stretching the holster or belt. 3rd vote: Straight belt slots. By straightening the slots, they'll actually make less of a hole in the leather and leave more leather to support the piece. Quote Mike DeLoach Esse Quam Videri (Be rather than Seem) "Don't learn the tricks of the trade.....Learn the trade." "Teach what you know......Learn what you don't." LEATHER ARTISAN'S DIGITAL GUILD on Facebook.
Members dickf Posted February 4, 2012 Members Report Posted February 4, 2012 I would add a sweat shield and straighten out the belt slots. They may look cooler slanted, but will hold the gun firmer if they are 90 degrees to the belt. Aaron Where's the logic in this? Angled slots are used all the time, and if you have ever made or used a holster with them, you'd know that they are not a disadvantage. In fact, Gary Brommeland makes a rig where his rear slot at an angle is a feature of the holster. http://brommelandgunleather.com/Products/def-con.htm As I previously stated, the degree of muzzle rake you have going on in this holster is extreme, but for some folks, is required because they wear the gun back around 5:00. Try drawing from a straight-drop or one with 10 degrees when it's back there - not happening. I also think that the front slot was better where it was, because if you bring it in too far, you're not going to get a bend in the front of the holster for the belt to thread through and the holster won't want to contour against the body. It looks like your revised pattern has the gun low enough to get away with it, but keep in mind, it's not going to work without a gun belt. Just my opinion. Quote US GUNLEATHER www.usgunleather.com twitter.com/usgunleather facebook.com/USGUNLEATHER
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