Members larena Posted February 28, 2012 Members Report Posted February 28, 2012 Hi everybody, I am working on my first latigo bosal and I need some advice. I have my core ready to braid over. I have cut my 1/4 inch latigo lace and split it down to 1/16 inch. I now need to bevel it but I am not sure exactly the best way to do this. Do you bevel both the hair and flesh side on latigo ? Which angle or angles do you use? I can do a 30 or 45 degree bevel. I am looking for a scalloped look over the twisted core. Is that done with the bevel? Thanks for the help, Larena Quote
Members Vaquero1 Posted February 28, 2012 Members Report Posted February 28, 2012 Hi Larena, i havent made a Latigo frame but i´ve seen some well made. they all had a beveled hair side. i´m not shure if the flesh side is beveled too but i think i would bevel it get a smoother braid. hope some other braiders read your question and may help ;-) Quote
Members KnotHead Posted February 28, 2012 Members Report Posted February 28, 2012 I'm not sure about latigo. But with the kangaroo I use, I bevel just the underside of the lace. I always bevel before I split the lace. This gives me more surface on the cutter to bevel. I have gotten used to beveling at 30 degrees instead of at 45 degrees. Beveling at 30 seems to give me a cleaner bevel, or cut. Beveling before you split wont take away any of the bevel on the sides. You still have a 30 degree angle on the edges to work with and to produce the smooth look you're after. It only requires minimal roll out after the braiding is done. Hope this helps. Again this is my preferred method and this is what works for me. It will ultimately be your decision as to what you do since you're the artist. Brian... Quote Best Regards, Brian Kidd
Members Leatherpownder Posted February 29, 2012 Members Report Posted February 29, 2012 Brian is right you want to bevel the flesh side on roo or any tanned leather. Quote
Members larena Posted February 29, 2012 Author Members Report Posted February 29, 2012 Thanks for the responses. I took your advice Brian and did a 30 degree bevel and then split my strings. Wow, that works great. I braided up a short section around an old reata and it was still pretty course on top. So . . .. back to the drawing board. I took it apart and did a scant 45 on the top and it seemed to fold in without the sharp edges. I guess I will give it a try on the strings I'm using for the bosal and see if I can make it work. Do you bevel the side buttons too? I really do appreciate all of your comments and help. Hopefully it will turn out and I'll post a picture and you can all know you helped. Larena Quote
Members Vaquero1 Posted February 29, 2012 Members Report Posted February 29, 2012 larena, i only bevel the flesh side on roo (or goatleather) but latigo looks nicer with beveled hair side too. my beveler has only a 45 degree but if i had the chance i would first bevel the flesh side- it´s easier to do it before beveling the hair side because the hairside gives the strand more strengh and pushes the fleshside down a little against the blade... than splitting and finally beveling the hairside 45 degrees to get a smoother rawhide look ;-) Quote
Members larena Posted February 29, 2012 Author Members Report Posted February 29, 2012 (edited) larena, i only bevel the flesh side on roo (or goatleather) but latigo looks nicer with beveled hair side too. my beveler has only a 45 degree but if i had the chance i would first bevel the flesh side- it´s easier to do it before beveling the hair side because the hairside gives the strand more strengh and pushes the fleshside down a little against the blade... than splitting and finally beveling the hairside 45 degrees to get a smoother rawhide look ;-) You are right, the latigo does look and feel better when it has a slight bevel on the hair side. I beveled my project strings last night and I think they look pretty good. I did a very slight 45 on the hair side, I hope that is enough; and a 30 on the flesh side. I will start braiding over the core tonight and then on to the nose button. I really like the way the latigo works. I have not had a lot of experience yet but it is a lot easier to work than kangaroo or rawhide. I need a more experience with rawhide but I love the feel of it. I guess the temper is the key and experience is the only teacher there. If I had one wish it would be for an endless supply of all leather . . . of course I would share. Thanks everybody for the help and advise, Larena Edited February 29, 2012 by larena Quote
Members curlyjo Posted March 1, 2012 Members Report Posted March 1, 2012 I've read about beveling rawhide on top and leather onthe bottom. I'm sure it's a personal thing but I've always beveled on top on everything. I like to see the edge fall into place especially on string with the color only on top. The slight difference in color between the center and the bevel is what I'm talking about. Thats just my 2 cents worth. I have beveled all 4 corners on rawhide to lay well but that is a lot of extra work. I'm only working with tiny roo strings now and it works for me. Buttons on rawhide. Brad Quote
Members barbiesdude Posted March 1, 2012 Members Report Posted March 1, 2012 Hi Larena, I have done a couple latigo bosals. I beveled flesh side only at 45 degrees. They turned out pretty nice. You won't really know how rough or smooth it will be until you roll it. It will look totally different after rolling. One tip for you is to be careful when pulling your strands tight while braiding. Latigo doesn't have the tinsile strength of roo and trust me, it isn't any fun lacing a new strand back through after you snapped one 3/4's of the way done. Another thing that helped me in beveling is running your strands through some white saddle soap or rawhide cream. It seems to condense the edges and they don't come out so fuzzy. If you search latigo bosal you can see the ones I braided. Where did you get your latigo from? I'm am doing a 5/8's latigo bosal tomorrow for a customer.Good luck with yours. Jamie Quote
Members Vaquero1 Posted March 1, 2012 Members Report Posted March 1, 2012 Jamie, do you let the strings dry for a while after running trough saddle soap before beveling? it does not work well if it´s to wet, isn´t it? Quote
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