Resolene Flaking Off Vinegaroon

[TomG]

My first "real" project using Vinegaroon was not as expected. I'm not sure what I did wrong.

This is a belt. I dipped the strap in the vinegaroon for about 3 minute and then took out, wiped down with a rag and then dipped in a soda bath for a while.

I rinsed in running water for a bit, wiping it down.

I put a light coat of NO on both sides. Let dry in front of a fan overnight and then applied a bunch of coats of NO until it was soft. I let it dry for about 3 days.

Then I applied around 3- 4 light coats of Resolene, letting each dry for 15-30 minutes between coats.

The resolene is flaking off. I can scratch with my fingernail and it just crumbles off.

Fortunately, the lady I gave the belt to is a friend and she knew it was something new I was trying.

Anyone have a clue as to where I went wrong?

Tom

[Dwight]

My first "real" project using Vinegaroon was not as expected. I'm not sure what I did wrong.

This is a belt. I dipped the strap in the vinegaroon for about 3 minute and then took out, wiped down with a rag and then dipped in a soda bath for a while.

I rinsed in running water for a bit, wiping it down.

I put a light coat of NO on both sides. Let dry in front of a fan overnight and then applied a bunch of coats of NO until it was soft. I let it dry for about 3 days.

Then I applied around 3- 4 light coats of Resolene, letting each dry for 15-30 minutes between coats.

The resolene is flaking off. I can scratch with my fingernail and it just crumbles off.

Fortunately, the lady I gave the belt to is a friend and she knew it was something new I was trying.

Anyone have a clue as to where I went wrong?

Tom

I'd say the problem is here: and then applied a bunch of coats of NO until it was soft.

If you wanted a soft belt, you should have used something other than Resolene, . . . BagKote comes to mind, . . . or a bees wax / NO combination.

I NEVER do more than a very light coating of neatsfoot oil on any of my projects, . . . and that only to the hair side. ONE coat, . . . no more.

May God bless,

Dwight

[katsass]

I'd say the problem is here: and then applied a bunch of coats of NO until it was soft.

If you wanted a soft belt, you should have used something other than Resolene, . . . BagKote comes to mind, . . . or a bees wax / NO combination.

I NEVER do more than a very light coating of neatsfoot oil on any of my projects, . . . and that only to the hair side. ONE coat, . . . no more.

May God bless,

Dwight

Dwight's got it right IMO. Too much NO, and too much Resoline. Frankly I don't use Resoline, I use Mop and Glo (yeppers, the floor stuff) mixed 50/50 with water and just mist on two coats with a drying time of about 10 to 20 minutes between --- depending on the weather. Finish with a hand applied and buffed light shot of Kiwi neutral polish. Of course I'm a bit che.... uh, 'frugal'. At about $5+ a quart, I end up with a half gallon for (maybe) a little more than a 4oz bottle of Resoline. A good belt will soften and conform with wear --- like a good pair of boots. Mike

Edited March 5, 2012 by katsass

[TomG]

Dwight's got it right IMO. Too much NO, and too much Resoline. Frankly I don't use Resoline, I use Mop and Glo (yeppers, the floor stuff) mixed 50/50 with water and just mist on two coats with a drying time of about 10 to 20 minutes between --- depending on the weather. Finish with a hand applied and buffed light shot of Kiwi neutral polish. Of course I'm a bit che.... uh, 'frugal'. At about $5+ a quart, I end up with a half gallon for (maybe) a little more than a 4oz bottle of Resoline. A good belt will soften and conform with wear --- like a good pair of boots. Mike

Thanks Mike. I've just recently been experimenting with the Resolene. I've mainly been using Satin Sheen. I did read somewhere here that they diluted the Resolene 50/50 as well and airbrushed it on. Since it has such a strong ammonia smell, I was not sure I wanted that running through my airbrush....

I've got another belt in the works and will lightlen up on the NO and try the diluted Res. with the airbrush...

I really like the depth of the color with the Vig. It's not for quick turnaround jobs because the smell takes a week to go away, but it's got USMC black beat all to hell for not rubbing off onto clothes:thumbsup:

Tom

[katsass]

Thanks Mike. I've just recently been experimenting with the Resolene. I've mainly been using Satin Sheen. I did read somewhere here that they diluted the Resolene 50/50 as well and airbrushed it on. Since it has such a strong ammonia smell, I was not sure I wanted that running through my airbrush....

I've got another belt in the works and will lightlen up on the NO and try the diluted Res. with the airbrush...

I really like the depth of the color with the Vig. It's not for quick turnaround jobs because the smell takes a week to go away, but it's got USMC black beat all to hell for not rubbing off onto clothes:thumbsup:

Tom

You are welcome Tom, as to the vinegar smell, it may well be that you have not put enough steel in the vinegar when you started. If the jug smells strongly of vinegar ---add more steel until it will no longer dissolve. I use steel wool, torched to remove wax and/or oil, ('taint really necessary, but I do it) I cut the stuff into thin strips, small enough to stuff easily through the narrow bottle neck. Another point --- use the airbrush to lay on a LIGHT coat of neatsfoot oil --- clean the brush by shooting some denatured alcohol through it. Also, the Mop and Glo is almost exactly the same as any of the 'Sheen' products --- per their data sheet, just an acrylic coating which absorbs into the leather on the first coat. Remember though, too much of almost anything 'taint good. Mike

[TomG]

You are welcome Tom, as to the vinegar smell, it may well be that you have not put enough steel in the vinegar when you started. If the jug smells strongly of vinegar ---add more steel until it will no longer dissolve. I use steel wool, torched to remove wax and/or oil, ('taint really necessary, but I do it) I cut the stuff into thin strips, small enough to stuff easily through the narrow bottle neck. Another point --- use the airbrush to lay on a LIGHT coat of neatsfoot oil --- clean the brush by shooting some denatured alcohol through it. Also, the Mop and Glo is almost exactly the same as any of the 'Sheen' products --- per their data sheet, just an acrylic coating which absorbs into the leather on the first coat. Remember though, too much of almost anything 'taint good. Mike

That's kinda what I read.... I have made 2 batches now. I added steel wool to the first batch to see if the stuff would eat it. It ate some, but not all. Still smells

The second batch has almost digested it all in 3 weeks. Going to add another half pad to make sure it's saturated.

But they DO blacken like crazy!!!

Later

Tom