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Not a problem Mike - we all appreciate you even taking the time to think of us in this regard. All info and help is more than we would have had without you going to the trouble.

Doug C

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Hi Doug, yes "retail prices" for what he calls the "toy" are much better than the "retail prices" of the "pro" units that anyone knows of ( at least until he gets back to me with prices, bear in mind, he may just say 10% or 20% less than "retail", I won't know until I get his written reply )..

re how close the outlets you found are to me ..

vaissiere ...other end of France..about 700 kms crow flies..900 by road ..8 hours hard driving ( but sticking to the speed limits ) each way..and no allowance for traffic.. :(

crevea...even further South..762kms crow flies ...1000kms road..10 hours each way..and no allowance for traffic :((

rougier ..shops at Vannes or Brest ' I'm about the same distance from both of them 100kms crow flies ..130 road..2 hours each way ( 2 lane each way highways and small, narrow Breton roads ) ..closer to 3 hours each way given the traffic in those two towns. :(

scrapyro..( Regad themselves ) 750 kms crow flies..900kms by road..9 hours each way ( right through the "massif central" ) :((

mando..Paris..380kms crow flies..450kms road..about 4 hours each way ( plus Parisian traffic ..world's worst drivers )..I hate Paris ( full of Parisiens ) , I try to avoid it at all costs..

Maybe the shops at the town nearest to me have them ( but Google doesn't know ) or can get them ..

I'll research by phone later today ( 04.00 am here now ..I type slowly ;) I have to hang around the house Wednesday in case a postal delivery ( Juki sewing machine parts from college sewing in the the UK ) comes here instead of to our PO box..

right now..I'm going to get some sleep..some delivery driver may be ringing the doorbell and waking me in just 5 hours..

Hi Mikesc,

Did Monsieur Regad ever get back to you with a final price for the set?

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Full Disclosure: we are the distributor for the creasing machine in the US.

We chose to carry this machine over the other ones for several reasons:

* I was trained in using this specific machine, so it's what I know and what I have the most experience with.

* It has very good heat control. The G6 has bit more control and power than the M3000. Heat control is probably the most important thing with any kind of creaser.

* Heat consistency- the second most important thing with any heated creaser. You want consistent temperature otherwise your lines look...well ... inconsistent.

* the accessories/tips - they're just better. The sizes that I need, the application of them is better. It's not the variety; there are other machines that have more choices. I prefer these accessories. I don't prefer the stamper though. There are better and cheaper ones out there.

Cons for this machine:

* it's expensive- it's the best we've found so far but you definitely pay for it. Don't get me started on the import taxes.

* it is definitely not a toy- it is truly an old-school industrial machine. No manual. It requires finesse. We offer instructions and a virtual tutorial to everyone who buys it from us otherwise they'd be lost.

Bottom line

I thought long and hard before adding this machine to our offering even though I use it all the time. It's a large investment and it's a very niche item. It is a huge time saver though not only in creasing the edges but also prepping them for painting. If you're looking for the best machine this is it, but it's definitely not for everyone.

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I have been researching this topic and have found an affordable, yet possibly temporary solution.

Radio Shack is filing for bankruptcy and they have digitally temperature controlled soldering irons for $89. Today I bought mine for around $50. It is settable for down to around 350 degrees and I think it goes up to 800. This should be the right temp range for this work.

I will try it when I get home, and I will probably end up making some tips for it if I can't find any locally.

Now to find the definitive answer on what edge paint to use....

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I have been researching this topic and have found an affordable, yet possibly temporary solution.

Radio Shack is filing for bankruptcy and they have digitally temperature controlled soldering irons for $89. Today I bought mine for around $50. It is settable for down to around 350 degrees and I think it goes up to 800. This should be the right temp range for this work.

I will try it when I get home, and I will probably end up making some tips for it if I can't find any locally.

Now to find the definitive answer on what edge paint to use....

For tips you can check http://www.ebay.com/itm/301284016005 I tested them, works fine with soldering iron accepting 4mm tips. I'm using Tandy (Fenice) professional edge paint (section lacquer) ant I'm happy with results (see some examples on https://www.facebook.com/kami.leathercraft).

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Sorry to take so long to get back to this topic.

The temp range on this iron is 300 degrees and up. It heats quickly and has a readout for the set temp and the actual temp. It seems to be a nice unit.

I used the tip that came with it and it seemed to work with the Tandy professional edge paint. The tip is too small and pointy though. It was hard to get a smooth edge on the leather.

Also, the iron uses the wrong sized tips and won't accept the 4mm tips (the tips for this unit are 6.5mm). Since I already have the iron, I think I will try and make a bushing that will allow me to use the 4mm tips and then buy the ones from EBAY.

I have a lot of projects going right now, so I don't know when I will be able to get to it.

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Hello all,

I have been a "lurker" for too long and have been learning so very much from everybody here- thank you so, so much!

I am setting up my home-based workshop for leather accessories and have been purchasing tools and machinery based on the awesome advise from you guys.

Recently I have been looking at Hermes videos on youtube and that led me to this thread. The Fileteuse is a tool I would love to add to my workbench and I am wondering what happened to the possibility of getting a group together to order a few from the source? I believe, there was a super nice guy with connections in France?

Eleni

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Does anyone know how hot these tools are supposed to run at?

I am looking at trying to make a cheaper version with a variable heat soldering iron. The units I have looked at seem to operate between 200 and 480 degrees Celsius. Any idea how that compares to the temperature of the Fileteuse?

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