Durkopp-Adler 267 Vs Pfaff 1245

[Ash]

hi,

I'm going to buy my first sewing machine for leatherwork.

I've read a lot of topics in here and, unfortunately, I'm not able to buy some of your well recomended sewing machines because they are not available in Italy.

So, I found the two sewing machines written on object above.

The first one is new and the other one is used but completely revisoned (so like new).

I will use it mostly for belts, bags, purses, wallets and so on.

I ask you a suggestion to help me in the choice. Someone has one of these machines and can give me an hand?

thanks a lot

Ash

[Trox]

They are both in the same class (upholstry class sewing machines) and will do the same. To compare them I need the sub class numbers on both. (the number behinde 267 and 1245). Picture and price will also help.

Thanks

Trox

[Andrew Chee]

One thing to bear in mind. Parts are crazy expensive for these machines. But if you get one, check out www.kwokhing.com for inexpensive accessories for those machines. Their edge guides are amazing and very well priced.

Andrew

[Ash]

Hi

Thanks for reply.. I'm not sure about the exact models, I think the DA is 267-373 (or 273) while Pfaff has triple transport (i don't know if it is the correct word), single needle (as the DA, indeed). Hope it helps

[Ken Nelson]

Hi

Thanks for reply.. I'm not sure about the exact models, I think the DA is 267-373 (or 273) while Pfaff has triple transport (i don't know if it is the correct word), single needle (as the DA, indeed). Hope it helps

The machines are very similiar. Both are compound feed and if in good condition, will last for many years. Both will sew 3/8". and up to 207 thread on top with 138 on the bottom. Hope this helps.

[Trox]

Hi

Thanks for reply.. I'm not sure about the exact models, I think the DA is 267-373 (or 273) while Pfaff has triple transport (i don't know if it is the correct word), single needle (as the DA, indeed). Hope it helps

Hi, The DA 267-373 is a triple feed single needle (273 is a two needle version). It is a good basic machine; I have one myself and am very happy with it. It will take up to TKT 15 (maybe TKT 10 on top, as Ken already has told you. I have never tried since I have heavier machines and do not need to)

The Pfaff 1245 is also a very good machine, since I do not know the numbers behind 1245, I cannot tell you more about it. It is as heavy as the DA and maybe a bit stronger too (both up 10 to 11 mm thick material). Here in Norway it is a very popular choice for upholstery. The Pfaff spare part prices are more expensive than DA parts here in Europe. The most important parts like hooks, plates and feet’s can be bought after marked. This is like choosing between a Mercedes and a BMW, they both are very good. Therefore, you must look for the age of the machine (paint color and subclass # can tell). Check hook and needle bar for wear. Look for extras like a needle position servomotor etc.

Good luck.

[Jimbob]

I have had several Adler 267-373 in a short time, not much sewing time, but I love the way the Adler acts and works.....I have now a nearly new Adler 267 and this will be a keeper!! Good machine, solid and well build.....even the newer ones from China!

Will do more sewing and reporting on how I get along with her....

James

[Ash]

thanks a lot.

The machines are both completely restored with new spare parts when needed, and also the engines are new.

PFAFF is a grey one (so maybe from the 80's??), DA is more recent (but not new). Both at the same price, 800 euros

it could be a good deal?

[Andrew Chee]

Those are expensive machines so 800euros is not bad. Is the new motor a servo or a clutch? Try to get them to throw in a servo if it's not already.

Andrew

[Trox]

Yes, thats not bad. Try them out, see who suit you best. The Pfaff will be a bit more expensive than the DA new. So if the Adler is newer, check the motors. A clutch motor is of no value even new. A Efka position motor will cost you 900 Euros new. Check motors and extras.