Durkopp-Adler 267 Vs Pfaff 1245

[Uwe]

10 hours ago, WISRepair73 said:

In 2016 I trained in Bielefeld, Germany. Every machine is built and tested there now.

That may be true for a few particular models.

Perhaps you misinterpreted something or somebody misspoke when you were there. Durkopp Adler has factories in several countries (Germany, Czech Republic, China, etc.) Only a select number of models are produced in Bielefeld nowadays, mostly high-end automated workstations for garment production. The Durkopp Adler 267 Traditional in particular is produced in China, I'm quite certain.

The showroom in Bielefeld appears to have nearly every model Durkopp Adler (and Pfaff) currently makes on display, but not all those machines are built in Bielefeld. At least that was true when I was there in 2017.

Edited February 5, 2019 by Uwe

[shoepatcher]

On ‎3‎/‎7‎/‎2013 at 11:05 PM, stolea said:

The 268 is the two needle version, the same as the 1246 is the two needle version of the 1245. They have 2 hooks and bobbins. That's why they have the same size throat plates on either side. its where the second hook and base goes.

No the 268 Adler is a post machine.  The 267-273 is the double needle version.  The old Minerva plant in the Czech republic is where DA machines are assembled.  They have a parts plant in Romania.  Germany is the warehouse and world headquarters.

Edited February 5, 2019 by shoepatcher
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[WISRepair73]

On 2/4/2019 at 7:34 PM, Uwe said:

That may be true for a few particular models.

Perhaps you misinterpreted something or somebody misspoke when you were there. Durkopp Adler has factories in several countries (Germany, Czech Republic, China, etc.) Only a select number of models are produced in Bielefeld nowadays, mostly high-end automated workstations for garment production. The Durkopp Adler 267 Traditional in particular is produced in China, I'm quite certain.

The showroom in Bielefeld appears to have nearly every model Durkopp Adler (and Pfaff) currently makes on display, but not all those machines are built in Bielefeld. At least that was true when I was there in 2017.

You may be right. While training I did not get a chance to see EVERY part. Place is HUGE! LOL! They are part of the SK Group with Beisler and others. (I suck at spelling by the way with 4 languages in my head). They were stress testing machines, repairing others, and hand building even more machines there.

[shoepatcher]

That is true.  Parts plant in Romania employees about 3000 workers I am told.  The assembly plant is in the Czech Republic.  I believe the 267 and one other light weight Adler machine is built in China.  Germany is World headquarters, showroom and inventory for machines and parts.  Pfaff has a plant in Germany and one in China.  Still both companies produce some great machines.  I own both Pfaff and Adler machines.

glenn

Edited February 20, 2019 by shoepatcher
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