Members slickfork Posted March 11, 2009 Members Report Posted March 11, 2009 The best tri-weave I've seen is made by Robert Beard. www.robertbeardtools.com Comes in half a dozen sizes. He told me he actually designed the original tri-weave. Nice tools, worth the price. Ive been using a set of his bevelers for years...They are expensive but there comes a point where the quality of your work is limited by the quality of your tools. Quote
Moderator bruce johnson Posted March 11, 2009 Moderator Report Posted March 11, 2009 I think it has been pretty well discussed that low end stamps serve a purpose and fill a niche. For me they have let me try some different patterns with minimal outlay. I could run a $5 triweave and see that I don't like it much in my hands. The walking tools tend to be more forgiving and can be cleaned up easier. For me where the quality crosses the line is on set stamps - baskets, geometrics, borders, etc. You only get one hit and the impression is what it is. Quote Bruce Johnson Malachi 4:2 "the windshield's bigger than the mirror, somewhere west of Laramie" - Dave Stamey Vintage Refurbished And Selected New Leather Tools For Sale - www.brucejohnsonleather.com
Doug C Posted March 11, 2009 Report Posted March 11, 2009 I think it has been pretty well discussed that low end stamps serve a purpose and fill a niche. For me they have let me try some different patterns with minimal outlay. I could run a $5 triweave and see that I don't like it much in my hands. The walking tools tend to be more forgiving and can be cleaned up easier. For me where the quality crosses the line is on set stamps - baskets, geometrics, borders, etc. You only get one hit and the impression is what it is. Bruce, I like the looks of that rope stamp to the right. Who makes it? Another thing. I ordered a couple of stamps from Robert Beard last May in Sheridan. One of them was the tri-weave. He gave me a little lesson on how to run it. He told me it would be awhile before I got them. He was right. I'm still looking forward to using them. Doug Quote
hidepounder Posted March 11, 2009 Report Posted March 11, 2009 Bruce,I like the looks of that rope stamp to the right. Who makes it? Another thing. I ordered a couple of stamps from Robert Beard last May in Sheridan. One of them was the tri-weave. He gave me a little lesson on how to run it. He told me it would be awhile before I got them. He was right. I'm still looking forward to using them. Doug Doug, he should also have told you to remove any knives, sharp objects or anything else that you could use to harm yourself with, from your bench, prior to starting with the Tri-Weave! It's a hard tool to run right, but looks really nice when you do! The Tri-weave on the left is a Hackbarth, the one on the right is a Bob Beard. (photo complete with typical mistakes! ) Bob Quote
Moderator bruce johnson Posted March 11, 2009 Moderator Report Posted March 11, 2009 Bruce,I like the looks of that rope stamp to the right. Who makes it? Doug Doug, Both of the stamps on my scan came from Barry King. Edit - Clarification - Both of the stamps on the right side came from Barry King. I had him make me up the rope stamp, the waffle stamp is his regular ol' order it and get it. Quote Bruce Johnson Malachi 4:2 "the windshield's bigger than the mirror, somewhere west of Laramie" - Dave Stamey Vintage Refurbished And Selected New Leather Tools For Sale - www.brucejohnsonleather.com
Bree Posted March 12, 2009 Report Posted March 12, 2009 I firmly believe that the problem is the plating. It removes the crispness from the tool. Sharp edges become rounded because the plating coats the edge increasing its size, rounding the edges, and reducing the fineness of detail. Given the plating, I don't think a Craftool can compete with unplated competitors. Remove the plating and its a new ballgame. My personal preference is for stainless steel unplated stamping tools. Quote Ride Safe! Bree 2003 Dyna Wide Glide Memberships: Iron Butt Association, Niagara Falls HOG, Wild Fire HOG NRA, Niagara County Sportsman's Association
Members Razz Posted April 13, 2009 Members Report Posted April 13, 2009 I firmly believe that the problem is the plating. It removes the crispness from the tool. Sharp edges become rounded because the plating coats the edge increasing its size, rounding the edges, and reducing the fineness of detail. Given the plating, I don't think a Craftool can compete with unplated competitors. Remove the plating and its a new ballgame. My personal preference is for stainless steel unplated stamping tools. You 100 percent about the plating Bree. I worked at a plating shop, and companies wood resend there product cause of the lost of crispness in the details. It's overplating, if the undercoating is too thick (copper & nickel) then you lose most details. Companies have it done to compensate for the poor casting of parts... to fill nooks and cranies and make the tool or whatever part look much better, more "attractive" once chromed. Quote If you get to thinkin' you're a person of some influence, try orderin' somebody else's dog around.
Members rickeyfro Posted April 13, 2009 Author Members Report Posted April 13, 2009 Has anyone ever questioned Barry King as to why he doesnt offer a tri weave? Quote
hidepounder Posted April 14, 2009 Report Posted April 14, 2009 Has anyone ever questioned Barry King as to why he doesnt offer a tri weave? Self injuries resulting from Tri-Weave Syndrome are bad for business! Bob Quote
Members Tkleather1 Posted April 14, 2009 Members Report Posted April 14, 2009 I have seen Peter Main take a craft tool from the shelf, stamp an impression, in 3-5 minutes on his sandpaper pack modify it and start tooling that would make all of us drool.Of course George Hurst will bash Craft Tools, he is a former Tandy employee who now has had to sell off Hidecrafter, but still remains an employee. I have some of Hidecrafters Pro-Series, they make great impressions, just don't use them too much as they are soft metal and will actuall deform in a short period of time. Everyone should use what they can afford. The more times you do the same pattern, it will get better, so comparing 2 items with diffrent tools done back to back will show improvement. I turn wrenches for a living on frarm equipment, have tools from every company under the sun, they all put the bread on my table and allow me to be able to afford my hobby of leatherwork. Just loose a 35$ Snap-on wrench or a 5$ craftsman - witch hurts more? I too am a wrench puller on heavy highway construction equipment and logging gear for the local CAT dealer. My question is where the hell do yo ufind a Snap-On wrench for 35 bucks the cheapest one I have is well over that. maybe my tools are larger I dont know. LOL Quote Tim Worley TK-Leather If you don't ask and dont try how are you gonna learn anything?
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