Members JustKate Posted May 18, 2013 Members Report Posted May 18, 2013 LOL....OMG....if Tandy just put the conchos on sale for me, I will just crack up! Awesome! Let's all buy some and make some hatbands, belts, wristcuffs and dog collars!!!! WOOHOO! Even if it wasn't in response to your communication with them, I'd say it was a nice bit of serendipity. Think I'll have to put in an order for some... Quote My gallery My Facebook page My web site
Members HellcatLeathers Posted May 18, 2013 Author Members Report Posted May 18, 2013 Here is his Facebook page. He has 10 photos with pictures of his shotgun shell collars. They seem to be REAL shotgun shell brass casings with the primer removed. They are NOT replica conchos. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Grizzly-Gear/413748342054689 Quote www.hellcatleathers.com
Members tnawrot2 Posted May 18, 2013 Members Report Posted May 18, 2013 His patent reads "Band having spaced bullet cartridge elements", he is using actual bullet casings cut down, not conchos. As a concho is not a bullet cartridge element, just a piece of pressed metal. His collars look like S--t, the quality of leather and the ridiculous looking bullet cartridge elements. Quote
Members Cyberthrasher Posted May 18, 2013 Members Report Posted May 18, 2013 Hmmmmmm, maybe he should spend more time learning how to properly craft leather instead of worrying about filing patents. Maybe if he figured out how to edge something he wouldn't have to worry about losing money from people supposedly copying his design. But yeah, he doesn't have a case in my non-legal opinion. His "band" consists of ACTUAL shotgun shell pieces (which ARE NOT bullet cartridge elements - a shotgun shell and a bullet cartridge are not the same). Your concho was never part of a shotgun shell, only simulated to look like one. Quote hellhoundkustoms.wordpress.com www.facebook.com/hellhoundkustoms www.etsy.com/shop/HellhoundKustoms
dirtclod Posted May 18, 2013 Report Posted May 18, 2013 (edited) His patent reads "Band having spaced bullet cartridge elements", he is using actual bullet casings cut down, not conchos. As a concho is not a bullet cartridge element, just a piece of pressed metal. His collars look like S--t, the quality of leather and the ridiculous looking bullet cartridge elements. I have to agree the poorly made collars. Guess if anybody wants to make a spike collar they better do it now before he gets another patent. Wonder what he paid the person that he stole the ideal from ? Noticed on the patent form that the only people he has went after were Esty sellers. I'm betting he thinks he has won the lottery with his BS patent. Hellcat go buy grizzly gear.net and offer to sell it to him for some big price somebody all ready has grizzlygear.com and call the person that owns grizzlygear because that name is all ready taken and he using their name to do business. I checked that info at whosit.com. Give him some of his own medicine !!!! Edited May 18, 2013 by dirtclod Quote I'm old enough to know that i don't know everything.
Leela Valley Leather Posted May 19, 2013 Report Posted May 19, 2013 Here is his Facebook page. He has 10 photos with pictures of his shotgun shell collars. They seem to be REAL shotgun shell brass casings with the primer removed. They are NOT replica conchos. https://www.facebook...413748342054689 I can see a few things in those photos... Live primers on some cartridge bases Stitching uneven and well... yeah. Needs to take better photos Conclusion: If he was my competition in my area I'd be celebrating, it looks like the stuff I was making when I was 13... Quote
Members shtoink Posted May 19, 2013 Members Report Posted May 19, 2013 Conclusion: If he was my competition in my area I'd be celebrating, it looks like the stuff I was making when I was 13... It'd be the type of work to be proud of if you were going for a badge in the Boy Scouts. Reminds me of the stuff the kids made in 4H. Quote
Members WinterBear Posted May 19, 2013 Members Report Posted May 19, 2013 Hey, don't be knocking my boys, shtoink. lol. They do better than that if they wanna get me to sign off on their merit badge cards. They all burnish their edges. Quote I used to be an Eagle, a good ol' Eagle too...
Leela Valley Leather Posted May 19, 2013 Report Posted May 19, 2013 Here is a cheeky idea for you all, why not send him (the patent troll) a cease and desist letter for bringing the trade into disrepute with the crappy quality of his work? Quote
Jaymack Posted May 20, 2013 Report Posted May 20, 2013 (edited) The way I look at it, He has a patent for a collar with 12 guage shells on it. You sell collars with different conchos on them. Just because it looks like a shotgun shell end, it's still a concho. For a patent, it is very vague. I don't see how you can have a patent that utilizes someone else's patented product, "the cartridge". Maybe I should go out and get a patent for a "a piece of leather with a mechanism designed to hold up your pants"! I think I'm going to get rich!!!! Edited May 20, 2013 by Jaymack Quote
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