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That's a "Small" portion??? WOW!!! The guy's obviously subcontracting you and trying to run a business without a license/tax Id (he makes several points toward the end there that are obvious that he's making them for other people). It's also clear that he knows more about leather than you do (in his head). These are big dollar items and he's in over his head. I'd just get the lawyer involved now to CYA.

Well he did tell me that he was going to write a book and film a Documentary on Saddle Making since no one has been making them right since the 1800s

We don't just build saddles, we create them.

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Well he did tell me that he was going to write a book and film a Documentary on Saddle Making since no one has been making them right since the 1800s

:rofl:

New plan - write this whole thing up into script form and we'll make a leather working comedy series about the things we go through!!!

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Here are photos of some of his work. I don't think I have to point out his mistakes. Oh, that front is covered with garment leather with the leather folded to fit. And his new age idea is a one piece back housing, jocky seat combo. He also wants the ground seat to go down pass the edge of the bar 3-4 inchs and then sewn to the skirts. And don't you love his horn cap. As he said "no sewing needed"

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We don't just build saddles, we create them.

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Like I said in my earlier post i think he was subcontracting you to make saddles for some one else. I believe that more after reading some of his emails to you. It cracks me up that he talks so specific about what he wants you to do and how you are supposed to do it. if he knows so much then why did he not make the saddles him self. The work of his that is in the photos shows me he does not know what he wants everybody to think he knmows. I know crap about making saddles but i know if i tried to do the work he did in those pictures it would look at lot more proffesional then that. I don't think you have to worry about him. The other thing is funny is like a lot of customershe wants to be on the phone with you all the time or constantly sends emails and gets upset when he can't reach you , however if you spend all your time on the phone with them then they want to know why it is taking so long to get their project done.

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Looks like he's got a new way to convert a leather sofa into a saddle. :lol:

There are always possibilities....

Bob Blea

C and B Leathercrafts

Fort Collins, CO

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Is that first picture what he sent you? I don't know JACK about saddles and I could have done better than that the day I started working hides. Hell, my daughter could do a better job. The guy is clearly clueless and wants you to cover his name for free. I'll guarantee that he's telling everyone the one you sent him was his work, regardless of what he tells you.

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I would have a nice professional letter from your lawyer sent to him ASAP....

Something along the lines of have fulfilled your end of the bargain and will be seeking recompense if he continues this stupidity

People are asses

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He's cost you a lot already, in time, frustration, and worry, not to mention your skills in making that first saddle. And that time that could have been spent working for a legitimate customer or making items to sell--after all, you could have built a saddle and sold it to someone else or made a pile of other less complicated things for the time you spent undoing his mistakes and starting the saddle over. So let your lawyer get this jerk to hit the road and leave you alone before the jerk costs you any more.

I used to be an Eagle, a good ol' Eagle too...

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omg, just reading his emails made my eyes bleed. Cease all work for this guy, cut your losses and threaten to report him if he bothers you again. You had waaay more patience and grace than most of us would have had in those circumstances. Wow. Just wow.

~J

 

 

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Is that first picture what he sent you? I don't know JACK about saddles and I could have done better than that the day I started working hides. Hell, my daughter could do a better job. The guy is clearly clueless and wants you to cover his name for free. I'll guarantee that he's telling everyone the one you sent him was his work, regardless of what he tells you.

Believe me, my name isn't anywhere on that saddle. Didn't want anyone to know that I built it.

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