Replacement For Phaff 1245

[rawhide1]

Howdy all

I'm wanting to replace my 1245 with a cylinder arm machine. I'm not sure what would be a good replacement for it tho. What are your opinions I would like to find a old treadle cyclinder arm machine. I need it to sew the same range as the 1245 or maybe a lil lighter material.

I have a pearson #6 for my heavy stuff and a singer 29k60 for the odd stuff. I'm in no big hurry I just want a idea in case I come across a deal.

All advice is greatly appreciated.

Mike

[steveh]

Do you like the pfaff 1245? It is a very well built machine. Pfaff made 335 cylinder arm machine if you want a quality machine.

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Steve

Thanks for the reply. I was starting to think I pissed everyone off!!!

I do like the 1245 it's a great machine. Not only do I use it for leather but I also repair my dept. bunker gear with it. I just think I'd be better served with a cyclinder arm machine. That way I could use a table if I needed too. Is the 335 the same machine just in the cyclinder arm. I'm pretty open to any machine though as long as it is a good machine and it will sew about the same parameters. I was hoping someone would know of a older singer or such that was treadle operated.

Mike

[Wizcrafts]

Look at some of the type 227 cylinder arm machines. They are usually medium duty walking foot machines with about a 3" diameter arm. They take the same presser feet as most standard walking foot machines made by Singer, Juki, Consew, Chandler, etc. Capacity is typically 3/8 inch, using #138 thread.

Edited June 11, 2013 by Wizcrafts

[rawhide1]

Thanks Wiz

I'll take a look at those. That sounds like it will suit my needs fine.

Mike

[Trox]

Among the old gray Pfaff machines the 345 cyl. bed with vertical hook is the nearest machine to the 1245. The old 335 have a small arm with horizontal hook and will not take heavy thread. The new 335 however, comes in a "heavy" subclass. The Pfaff 345 has a thicker arm but they do not make it anymore. Its hard to replace a 1245, you can look for a *DA 269-373 (* Dürkopp Adler). They have a big arm vertical hook and are in the same duty ranking as the 1245. Newer *DA machines who ends on 69 (triple feed cyl bed) will of course do the job, also the older 169 will do. The *DA 69 is to light, small arm , small bobbin like the old Pfaff 335. You could also look in too newer Chinese clone machines of these classes like Wiz suggests. However, the 1245 sets a high standard and will be expensive to match.

Good luck

Tor

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Trox

Thanks for the info. I took a look at the 227s and although they would do the job. I'm looking for a older machine preferably a treadle or hand crank. I'll take a look at some of the machines you mentioned. Did singer not make any older machines that might fit the bill. The 1245 I have is grey and it's a great machine I would just like a cyclinder arm.

Thanks again, Mike

[Gump]

Singer made the 153 series cyl. arm machines. The 101 and 103 are compound feed machines, and the 102 is not. They are capable of sewing 3/8" with 138 thread and could be fitted to a treadle base.It is the same basic machine as the 227 that Wiz mentioned and takes standard walking feet and 135 x 17/16 needles, readily available. They are also grey in color. Gump

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Gump

Thanks for the info. I'll look those up too. Lots of homework but I like to know my options.

Thanks again,Mike

[Trox]

Trox

Thanks for the info. I took a look at the 227s and although they would do the job. I'm looking for a older machine preferably a treadle or hand crank. I'll take a look at some of the machines you mentioned. Did singer not make any older machines that might fit the bill. The 1245 I have is grey and it's a great machine I would just like a cyclinder arm.

Thanks again, Mike

Treadle or hand crank might be a option on all sewing machines. I do not think you will not find any triple-feed cylinder-beds with hand crank as standard. You might find one with a treadle, but they had electrical motors when the first triple feed machines came on the marked. Do you look for a old machine machine because you want a treadle/hand crank or because of your budget?

Tor

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Trox

The 1245 was my first machine I bought. On average most of my sewing runs are 6-10 inches on each side and both ends to sew snaps/buckles on. So I just hand cranked the 1245. On long runs such as belts and headstall pieces I could feather the clutch motor alright. And I was happy as heck with the 1245 even tho I was limited on sewing gussets and such I made it work. But then I got my singer 29k60 and pearson #6 and wow I love how they sound and look. They also seem a little less complicated for me to work out problems on. I'll be honest I just handwheel those two machines also. Because as of now I'm not cordinated enough to use my feet and hands at the same time!!!LOL

So I guess I'm looking for a older machine because I like the craftmanship of old machines and I'd be a liar if I said money also wasn't a issue. I'd love to sell my 1245 and buy another machine and have money left over to buy more leather tools!! I guess I'm not busy enough and don't plan on being that busy that I need a fancy smancy machine that will sew like the devil!! Sorry for being so long winded!

Mike