Matchlock Report post Posted June 10, 2013 (edited) Hello everyone; After nearly forty years of sewing everything by hand, my old hands need a machine. Perhaps it's just an excuse and maybe I'm getting lazy but I still want one anyway. I have an opportunity to pick up a used Singer Sewing Machine Model 211G166 and was wondering if it will be suitable for sewing two pieces of 8 to 9 ounce tooling leather. Thank you for any help. Matchlock. Edited June 10, 2013 by Matchlock Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tnawrot2 Report post Posted June 10, 2013 I personally don't think it would be the right machine for your sewing, it is a high speed machine that would require a new servo motor and a speed reducer to sew leather, that would be about another $300.00 US. I found and old topic about the 211g166. http://leatherworker.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=41831 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matchlock Report post Posted June 10, 2013 I personally don't think it would be the right machine for your sewing, it is a high speed machine that would require a new servo motor and a speed reducer to sew leather, that would be about another $300.00 US. I found and old topic about the 211g166. http://leatherworker...showtopic=41831 Thank you very much for your timely reply. I think you just saved me $400.00 I really appreciate that. Thank you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Massive Report post Posted June 12, 2013 I would buy either the Cobra 4 or 3. The 3 is OK for holsters, but the 4 is better for gunbelts and wider welts as well. Techsew is local and they have a new machine worth buying, but the Cobra was a better deal or no worse, and they probably have their head more in holsters. I'm in Toronto, and have been through the second hand machines, overall not worth the effort. There are some catagories where they shine like small machines that cost about 60 bucks are built like tanks and work great for ever. But the heavy sewers I haven't come across the holster machines. You look at Bianchi before the current upswing in interest, and the machines were custom or needle awl. I tihnk one is unlikely to find something that fits from the second hand market in Ontario, unless you want a needle awl machine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greystone Report post Posted June 12, 2013 I might be way off but heavy means Campbell/Randall needle awl,,,, my a dream away,, for me,,love the sound,, he,,he union lockstich and a few others both older machines but parts still on call,,,,, first choice for me Cobra 4-25 and the other 411 clones just my $$ 0.02 and way over valued db Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anne Bonnys Locker Report post Posted June 19, 2013 One of the most difficult aspects of selling machines is to get people to really define what they want to do. You want a heavy stitcher? How about this lovely Puritan OSXL? I might be way off but heavy means Campbell/Randall needle awl,,,, my a dream away,, for me,,love the sound,, he,,he union lockstich and a few others both older machines but parts still on call,,,,, first choice for me Cobra 4-25 and the other 411 clones just my $$ 0.02 and way over valued db Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wizcrafts Report post Posted June 19, 2013 Send me your Puritan OSXL Darren! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matchlock Report post Posted September 13, 2013 First of all I'd like to say thank you to all the kind and informative responses to my (which machine) issue I was having. To make a long story, and this post short, I can tell you that I just got done speaking with Mr. Dave Spiegel at Leather Machine Co. Inc. and I now have a brand new Cobra Class 4 machine on it's way from California to Ontario as I write this. Thanks again for all your help friends. Bud Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tnawrot2 Report post Posted September 13, 2013 You won't be disappointed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matchlock Report post Posted September 14, 2013 Thank you, and from what I've heard from other Cobra owners it's a great machine. Thanks again, and I appreciate the reply. Bud You won't be disappointed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites