Lanyard Help Requested, Please...

[TXAG]

Yeah, I'm doomed now...haha...I really liked making star knots, multi-strand MW knots, etc., but it's neat to be able to make something you can wear. I have some rawhide on the way so I can try working with that too. The roo lace is really nice, but very expensive. I really need to look into making my own lace soon.

I'm having trouble making Spanish ring knots with flat lace...the lace tends to want to stack on top of itself instead of sitting nicely next to other strands when I tie it. Any suggestions on that? I don't know if I'm just leaving too much slack when making it or what...

The main body of the bracelet is a 6-plait...I made sure to roll it when I got it to the length I wanted. It helped even it out and quite a bit and made it smoother.

[megabit]

You got good advice on the terminal knots. One other thing I have done is braid out past the length I want and then push two strands through where I want it to end. You then use the four ends to make a 4 strand Spanish ring and cut off the excess.

You might want to practice the single pass gaucho until you can do it without the instructions based on 5x4, 7x6 or more. Then you can work on learning how to make the long turks head base knot to interweave into a gaucho. This stuff is really hard to do trying to follow step by step instructions (go look at some of my early post to see how I know that. ). Once you start understanding how to build up the knots by looking at where you are and can size them up or down things get easier. It just take sometime to get there.

Mike

[TXAG]

Found a great diagram for the Spanish ring knot on plate 161 of Grant's Encyclopedia of Rawhide and Leather Braiding. Yay...bracelet looks much more balanced with these knots added.

[bucksnort]

I think I know what the problem your having with the parallel strands is. I hope I can explain it so it makes sense. When you expand a 5x4 turkshead to a 7x6 you create parallels. This is the only case I can think of where you don't split pairs. Your next pass will go in between these & go opposite the strands on each side of it (under when they are over ect.). The same occurs if you expand the length of a TH. In both of these cases when you come to a parallel you go over or under 2(the parallels) just like the strand you are following. Once your base knot is the size you want, then you start the guacho & split your pairs. Hope that makes some sort of sense, if so you may want to consider therapy. Buck

[kytim]

Never give up!!

[TXAG]

Thanks, kytim...

Ok, new question -- So I am using this video to make my terminal knots, but they weren't turning out how I thought they should...

So I have been watching and rewatching that video (dozens of times now) and still cannot seem to get it right. I can do the initial crown, then the wall, then the next crown (all with no problems)...and the step after that is where I get stuck...where you go to tuck the strands back in. The way I am seeing in the video (it doesn't help that I don't speak spanish), it makes the strands just go over top of the ones that were already laid there from a previous step...like directly on top of them.

Any ideas what's going on there? I am doing this with six strands and the video is for four, but the method shown should work fine with six strands, I think...or at least I don't see any reason why it wouldn't...

Edited September 19, 2013 by TXAG

[megabit]

Yes, it should work about the same with 6 strands but it will make it a little harder. You could leave 2 strands in the middle and tie the ring with 4.

Have you seen this thread on the same topic http://leatherworker.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=49349&hl=terminal#entry313523 ?

[TXAG]

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Edited September 20, 2013 by TXAG

[megabit]

Isn't this what you are trying to get too

moto_0019.jpg by ss1442, on Flickr

It is the same knot as the video you posted.

[TXAG]

Nevermind. I'll just keep watching the video until I get it.

Edited September 20, 2013 by TXAG