Members Danomite Posted August 11, 2013 Members Report Posted August 11, 2013 Hi Everyone, I'm just getting into this, and obviously the choices for sewing machines are a little overwhelming. I've tried using my Mother's sewing machine at one point but it struggled, so I figured I would need to step up and get something a little more powerful. I've read many of the threads on here about different sewing machines. It seemed like most of the questions are geared towards which machines are best for going bigger, but not many mention machines that are better for the smaller projects. It would seem to my relatively uneducated view, that a machine that can sew 3/4" of leather might not sew 1/8" leather as well. The consew 206rb5 is mentioned a lot as a good machine, as is the Cobra brand. Could anyone give me some insight on what I should be looking for? Is the consew 206rb5 a good choice for smaller projects? What about the Cobra series, or any others? Thanks in advance, Dan Quote
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted August 12, 2013 Moderator Report Posted August 12, 2013 (edited) I use either my walking foot machine, or my Singer 31-15 to sew watch bands. Both have optional presser feet that have edge guides on the right side. I choose the edge guide that places the stitch line very close to the edge and sew around the bands. Normally, I use #69 bonded thread, through a #16 leather point needle, for such thin work close to edges. A Consew 206RB-5 is a very good walking foot machine, suitable for your work. Edited August 12, 2013 by Wizcrafts Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Techsew Ron Posted August 12, 2013 Report Posted August 12, 2013 The consew 206rb5 or any other flatbed walking foot machine would be suitable. Other options include: Techsew 106, Cobra class 18, Pfaff 1245, Adler 267 etc.. Quote Techsew Industrial Sewing Machines Call toll-free: 866-415-8223 Visit www.techsew.com
Members pcox Posted August 12, 2013 Members Report Posted August 12, 2013 I use either a 31-15 or my 16-88 depending witch one is set up for small stuff at the time. The 31-15 lets me get a little closer to the buckles etc. Quote
Members Danomite Posted August 14, 2013 Author Members Report Posted August 14, 2013 Thanks for the replies. So far I've been looking at the singer 31-15s, and the Consew rb206-5. I thought the singer would be a little more in my price range, as I've read on here most people are paying less than 200 for theirs. Maybe the market has changed though? The reason that has a question mark is because on Ebay they seem to be ranging 400-700 dollars. I did find a Consew locally, but the owner doesnt know if it is an rb5 or not. He's asking 800 OBO. Can anyone help identify this machine, and weigh in on whether this would be a good deal if I picked it up locally (didn't have to pay for shipping). I have (hopefully) attached some pictures of of the machine. Thanks again everyone, Dan Quote
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted July 7, 2015 Moderator Report Posted July 7, 2015 Hi Mr wizcrafts, what foot would you use if stitching a padded watch strap eg the padded centre is 4 - 5mm while the outer edge (that will be stitched) is approx 2.5 mm . I was thinking a piping foot maybe.? Depends on what type of feed your machine has. Is yours a straight stitch or walking foot machine? Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Moderator Art Posted July 7, 2015 Moderator Report Posted July 7, 2015 Hi Dan, As said before, a Singer 31-15 is a good bet. If you can get one from a dealer who can service it, so much the better. There is also the Singer 110 which comes in a variety of flavors and gear-sets, but can be a pretty good machine for your purpose. I usually don't recommend a used machine for a beginner. For your first machine, buy something new that will last forever from a dealer, one who knows leatherworking machines. Make sure it has a servo and hopefully a speed reducer so you can use both hands on the work, not one riding the balance wheel. Good new Consew 206RB-5 Cobra Class 18 Only the Highlead version Juki DDL-5550 various flavors of this animal, kind of a newer version of the Singer 31-15.....or not. Cobra 5550 BB Big Bobbin version of the 5550, good machine if made by Highlead. Techsew 0302 Make sure it has a Servo and speed reducer And last but not least Cowboy 227R This is a clone with add-ons of the Singer 153w101.2.3 which is an upgrade of the flat bed 111, a workhorse of a machine. Up to 3/8, no problems and occasionally 1/2 (if you start doing 1/2", you really need a bigger machine. The 227 allows you to sew things that would give you trouble on a flat bed. Art Quote For heaven's sakes pilgrim, make yourself a strop!
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted July 8, 2015 Moderator Report Posted July 8, 2015 (edited) Oh yes of course. Its a straight stitch machine. You can buy compensator feet where the left or right toe is spring loaded vertically. This allows the foot to ride over two different height layers as it secures the work. They come in a variety of widths to the center slot (not always just a hole). Some even come with a steel leaf spring edge guide. Look into buying a couple different compensator feet of different spacings and edge guide springs. For watch bands, I recommend starting with 1/16", 3/32" and 1/8" from the guide on the right to the center of the needle slot/hole. Piping feet probably won't work because the are meant to sew inside a round on the left of a strap and you want to sew along the outer edge of a raised but not round shape. Edited July 8, 2015 by Wizcrafts Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
Moderator Art Posted July 8, 2015 Moderator Report Posted July 8, 2015 http://www.cutexsewingsupplies.com/industrial-sewing-right-compensating-presser-foot-for-knit-thin-materials This particular one fits the Juki 5550. It costs $6.50 so why cut down a piping foot. Art Quote For heaven's sakes pilgrim, make yourself a strop!
Moderator Wizcrafts Posted July 8, 2015 Moderator Report Posted July 8, 2015 (edited) These Google search results should help you choose a compensating presser foot. Most of the industrial sewing machine dealers who advertise here also sell these presser feet, along with all other sewing accessories. Please try to support our dealers. Edited July 8, 2015 by Wizcrafts Quote Posted IMHO, by Wiz My current crop of sewing machines: Cowboy CB4500, Singer 107w3, Singer 139w109, Singer 168G101, Singer 29k71, Singer 31-15, Singer 111w103, Singer 211G156, Adler 30-7 on power stand, Techsew 2700, Fortuna power skiver and a Pfaff 4 thread 2 needle serger.
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