stef73433 Report post Posted August 22, 2013 Is there any way to make patterns by hand to ensure that they are cut out perfectly? I struggle with my breastcollars, making each side symmetrical. I don't think I'm ready for the expense of a clicker press. Is there a happy medium? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwight Report post Posted August 23, 2013 (edited) It is easy to make anything "two sided" exactly the same: cut off either the left half, the right half, the top half or the bottom half (depending on the pattern) and decide which one is the best. Turn it over on it's back, . . . and outline the other half with it. I learned this trick making sewn leather suspenders, . . . one side fit and looked "right" the other didn't. Pitched the bad side and re-traced it with the good side, . . . works every time now. The other "secret" to good patterns is using a rigid pattern material. The best I have found so far, is called "bag stiffener" and is sold by Tandy. Cuts easy, . . . almost impossible to tear it, . . . edges don't fray, . . . and you can lay it down and trace it with a pencil, scribe, ball point pen, . . . whatever you want to use. May God bless, Dwight Edited August 23, 2013 by Dwight Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dirtclod Report post Posted August 23, 2013 Make your pattern out of stiff cardboard or the stuff Dwight is talking about put left on side and right on the other side trace and cut. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stef73433 Report post Posted August 24, 2013 Ok, I don't think I asked my question in the way I intended. I understand how to create the paper pattern. My dilemmais actually cutting my angles perfect so that they match the template once cut. I can be a slight bit off the pattern after I cut and I sure can see it in my work. Here's a pic of what I mean by the angles, etc. this piece came out ok, but some of them are "off" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stewart Report post Posted August 24, 2013 Maybe a small carpenters square. . Joe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwight Report post Posted August 24, 2013 Ahhh, . . . uniformity, . . . "the lost chalice of leathermaking". Your problem is really a simple one and can be "fixed" rather easily if you have a real "craftsperson" among your friends and or acquaintances. Take a look at the drawing, this is what you will need. May God bless, Dwight Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JLSleather Report post Posted August 24, 2013 Yep, I think Dwight got it covered. If you're not comfortable doing this, likely any machine shop in the country can do it pretty cheaply. Basically a very small die with a handle. The link is about what you need, but it's simple enough to make one with the angles you need. http://www.tandyleatherfactory.com/en-usd/search/searchresults/3200-00.aspx Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stef73433 Report post Posted August 25, 2013 Ok, now it makes sense.so simple really!! Thank you so much for input. Add this to my to get list! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kwelna Report post Posted August 29, 2013 (edited) I am looking at your work and I do not see an issue, it looks wonderful.......I am just a novice in leather work, but I have taken to the Japanese asthetic view called Wabi-Sabi. Basically it finds beauty in the imperfect. This does not mean you do sloppy work of poor quality, But rather you embrace the fact that it will never be perfect. These imperfections are what sets your work apart from others. It is proof that it was made by hand by an artist or craftsman. I have found that most of my customers prefer leather that "looks" like leather and has certain slight imperfections. They like that the stitching while neat, straight and clean, still has a "non machine like" quality that comfirms that it was truly had stitched. That is what they ar paying for, hand made, high quality and unique. Again I am just getting started and I have a lot to learn and it is not like I sell tons of items, or I have customers knocking down my door wanting my work.....I also do not do this a a primary source of income.....If I did, that might change my attitude as well. Also, Check out these guys, http://www.blackriverlaser.com/leather-craft-templates-gauges/ Just a thought Edited August 29, 2013 by kwelna Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tex Shooter Report post Posted August 29, 2013 (edited) I guess that everybody has there own way of making a template and largely depends on what you plan on doing with it. Here is what I do. First I make on out of cardboard (usually a cereal box) to try and tweak or remake. I usually also make cardboard models of the item before using leather. When I make a cardboard model I staple instead of stitch. If I am only going to make one I stop with the cardboard template and keep it for reference. If however I decide to make more than one I will make the template out of polyethylene sheet made for this purpose. If you cut it just a hair larger than the layout you can sand it to a perfect match. Now after using it for a while and knowing that I can sell a item made from it, I will then order a clicker die. Picture one shows a first time cardboard template. Picture 2 shows a Polyethylene template that I used for a short time. Picture three show final templates that I used long enough to know that I could sell the product made with them. I know have these pus several more in clicker dies. Patterns are shown on one of my clicker plates. -- Tex Edited August 29, 2013 by Tex Shooter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stef73433 Report post Posted August 30, 2013 Thank you all! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kwelna Report post Posted September 1, 2013 I use clear ~1/4" plexiglass for my permanent templates and molds, not a good as polyethylene and a bit more brittle but I can see through the template so it helps me to position it. I then scribe stitch lines, fold lines, drill location holes etc. on to / through the plastic template. I can cut it with a small cheap band saw ($60 on sale) from harbor freight using a metal band saw blade and like Tex Shooter said, I cut it a tad over sized and sand (Harbor Freight 4" belt and disk sander - $80) it to the correct size. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BadW0lf Report post Posted October 9, 2013 Wow - that breast strap is absolutely gorgeous!!!!!!!!!!!! I think it looks amazing as is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites