New Dürkopp Adler 969 And 967 H Type Machines For X Heavy Work

[shoepatcher]

Guys,

The Weaver price on the Eco 969 is $8195.00.US That is the price in their new 2015 catalogue. I think the Classic with all the toys is over $11,000.00.

Call Allen with any questions.

glenn

[Uwe]

Weaver posted a few new videos on youtube last week, including a nice overview of the Durkopp Adler 969 Eco:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kqHbL_47b0#t=24.306041

Edited March 1, 2016 by Uwe

[Singermania]

I'm interested in the needles this machine might use, I'm wondering now the machine is out and about does it use the 1000 needle and can they be had in leather point, and if so from whom??

[Uwe]

The Durkopp Adler H-Type machines can use both system 794 and system 1000 Needles.

The system 1000 Needles are only made by Schmetz as of right now. The 1000H versions are the fabric point needles. They have only one leather point version, the 1000Q, which has a square tip with four cutting edges for leather work. They are only available in sizes 250, 280, and 300.

The 1000 series has slightly shorter shank and thus a longer shaft, to allow for maximum material thickness without the thicker shank part penetrating the material.

All this is what the folks at the Durkopp Adler, Schmetz, and Groetz Beckerts stand just told me a few minutes ago. I just happen to be at the TexProcess sewing machinery trade show in Atlanta.

They also said the System 794 needles are a much better choice for leatherwork because of the large number of leather point versions that are available in that needle system, from both Schmetz and Groetz Beckert.

Edited May 5, 2016 by Uwe

[Singermania]

7 hours ago, Uwe said:

The Durkopp Adler H-Type machines can use both system 794 and system 1000 Needles.

The system 1000 Needles are only made by Schmetz as of right now. The 1000H versions are the fabric point needles. They have only one leather point version, the 1000Q, which has a square tip with four cutting edges for leather work. They are only available in sizes 250, 280, and 300.

The 1000 series has slightly shorter shank and thus a longer shaft, to allow for maximum material thickness without the thicker shank part penetrating the material.

All this is what the folks at the Durkopp Adler, Schmetz, and Groetz Beckerts stand just told me a few minutes ago. I just happen to be at the TexProcess sewing machinery trade show in Atlanta.

They also said the System 794 needles are a much better choice for leatherwork because of the large number of leather point versions that are available in that needle system, from both Schmetz and Groetz Beckert.

Hi Uwe, thanks for your help, the local Schmetz dealer here in Australia says the 2016 list only shows the 280 needle, I would really like to source the 250 needle in leather point that you mentioned.... how confident are you that Schmetz does the 250?  If you are pretty sure I'll go back to them and ask them to look a bit deeper.

[Uwe]

I'm only repeating what the Schmetz sales person told me at their booth earlier today. He was going by memory, and who knows what production runs they actually have nowadays.  I came across one other reference for the 1000 needles in a Consew brochure for their 733 series machine.

Special order may mean that you have to buy a couple thousand needles at a time to make it worth their while to fire up the production line.

 

 

Edited May 6, 2016 by Uwe

[GPaudler]

They showed that machine, and a very few others, at the Techtextil show in Houston several months ago, it's visually very impressive in-person. They weren't demonstrating the machines; just guys in suits standing around. I sort of recall a quoted price of $12,000. A colleague had attended Techtextil at Messe Frankfurt and had a great time so I was eager to attend the North American edition but was quite disappointed. It was a dinky show with very low energy and little of interest to me. 

It was combined in the same small exhibition hall with a small composites expo that was more interesting, especially the Swiss company Staubli's incredible Jacquard machines that can make inch-thick combinations of reinforcing yarns, like glass, carbon, aramid and polyolefin in complex arrays specifically designed to place carefully engineered reinforcement in a composite structure. Their display was back-to-back with the German company Dornier who showed some beautiful looms.

I went to the IFAI industrial fabrics show in Anaheim hoping to see lots of machines but it was also quite disappointing with very few sewing machines on display and very little new stuff.

[Kleofash]

Hello folks. 

I will revive this old thread a little bit. The 969 is still being made in Czech republic. I just ordered one. The delivery time is around 25 weeks at the moment!

[shoepatcher]

Good news.  Weaver Leather now has the 969 Pure out!! This is a stripped down 969 with large balance wheel, no air lift rather foot lift.  It is just like the 205 plane jane was but now it is the big brother.  I believe the price complete is $5895.00 if you set up an account with them.  So now the 969 Pure, the Eco and the Gold edition with all the toys.  3 price points  to choose from depending on money and needs.  

16.5" throat, self winding bobbin winder on front of machine, larger bobbin, one step oiling.  Higher lift, bigger stitch length than 205.  check it out.

glenn

[Trox]

On 5/11/2021 at 7:54 PM, shoepatcher said:

Good news.  Weaver Leather now has the 969 Pure out!! This is a stripped down 969 with large balance wheel, no air lift rather foot lift.  It is just like the 205 plane jane was but now it is the big brother.  I believe the price complete is $5895.00 if you set up an account with them.  So now the 969 Pure, the Eco and the Gold edition with all the toys.  3 price points  to choose from depending on money and needs.  

16.5" throat, self winding bobbin winder on front of machine, larger bobbin, one step oiling.  Higher lift, bigger stitch length than 205.  check it out.

glenn

6500 Euro with all the good stuff on it at sieck.de Germany. Machine without support, you can always get support from Dürkopp Adler.